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John Mill Fortescue
« on: Sunday 01 July 18 22:14 BST (UK) »
Dear Roots Chatters

I am researching for a book about a family in  Shebbear (Devon) in  England.  A John Mill Fortescue of Dundrum  c 1860s funded the building of the village school in Shebbear.  While the  Fortescues were known landowners I particularly need to know how John Mill Fortescue came by the name  'Mill'

Any help will be sincerely appreciated

Many thanks in advance

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Re: John Mill Fortescue
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 01 July 18 22:32 BST (UK) »
There is a John Mill Fortescue marriage to an Frances Isabella Dowling Herbert 1842
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01maq/
is this your John
gives his address as Kings County

appears to be the same man
address Dundrum
http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/reels/cwa/005014886/005014886_00389.pdf

His son died 1861
http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/reels/cwa/005014885/005014885_00040.pdf

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Re: John Mill Fortescue
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 01 July 18 23:06 BST (UK) »
Fortescue, of Buckland Filleigh. — William Fortescue, second son of Martin Fortescue, by the heiress of Denzell, or Densell (fn. n17), and grandson of Sir John Fortescue, the Lord Chancellor, married the heiress of Atkins, of Milton Abbot, and was of Buckland Filleigh, which had been settled upon him by his mother, as the inheritance of her ancestors, the Filleighs. William, the eighth in descent of this branch, was Master of the Rolls: he married one of the co-heiresses of Fortescue of Fallopit, and left an only daughter, married to John Spooner, Esq., by whom she had no surviving issue. John Fortescue, a first cousin of the Master of the Rolls, whose father, George, had married the heiress of Fortescue of Spridleston, became the representative of this branch, and possessed Buckland Filleigh: he died without issue. His sister Rebecca married Caleb Inglett, Esq. (fn. n18), whose son Richard took the name of Fortescue in 1777, and was father of John Inglett Fortescue, Esq. (fn. n19), the present representative of this, and of the Spridleston branch.

Sir Faithful Fortescue, elder son of John Fortescue, of Buckland Filleigh, by his second wife, Susanna Chichester, settled in Ireland in the reign of James I., and was ancestor of the Earl of Clermont.

Younger branches of the Fortescues of Buckland Filleigh settled at Shebbear, Hatherleigh, Milton Abbot, Northam, Parkham, and High Bickington. There are male descendants from some of these branches. John Fortescue, Esq., is representative of the Shebbear branch.

Arms: — The same as those of Earl Fortescue, with due difference. The arms of Inglett were, S., a bend, Arg., between 6 escallops, Or.

http://www.british-history.ac.uk/magna-britannia/vol6/cxxxii-clx
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Re: John Mill Fortescue
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 01 July 18 23:12 BST (UK) »
Faihful FORTESCUE44 was born before 1830. Parents: Faithful FORTESCUE of Ireland and Mary BYRNE.

Spouse: Mary MARRY. Mary MARRY and Faihful FORTESCUE were married on 29 August 1847 in Our Lady's Church, Ardee, County Louth, Ireland. Children were: Anne FORTESCUE, Mary FORTESCUE, Elizabeth Mary FORTESCUE.
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Re: John Mill Fortescue
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 01 July 18 23:17 BST (UK) »
Sir Faithful (Faskie) FORTESCUE128 was born in 1585. He was christened on 22 August 1585 in Wear Giffard, Devon. He died in 1666. Faithful was buried in 1666 in Carisbrooke Church, Isle of Wight, Hants. Sir Faithful went over to Ireland early in the reign of James 1st. Commanded a regiment of foot under his uncle, the Lord Deputy SIR ARTHUR CHICHESTER.

Faithful, the third son of John Fortescue of Buckland-Filleigh, was born no later than 1581 since in 1606 he was made Constable of Carrickfergus Castle, and he was unlikely to have been less than 25 years old at that time. He left school at a young age and had his education from Sir Arthur, 1st Lord Chichester, whom he probably accompanied to Ireland (in about 1588 or 9). The post of Constable was richly rewarded. His father left only £50 to Faithful, most - about £3000 - going to his eldest son Roger.

Faithful was knighted by King James in 1617. He acquired the territory of Clinaghartie, situated in the lower Claudeboye in County Antrim; there was a "Manor of Fortescue" there in 1860 although the lands and manor were sold in 1624. Faithful also had lands at Gortfadda, Co. Antrim. A seal was found nearby which is engraved "S. Riehort Fortescu"; it indicates that there was a marriage between English and Norman Fortescues. The seal is French and of the 14th or 15th Century. Faithful also acquired lands at Down, near Scarva, which remained in the hands of his direct descendants until 1827.

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Re: John Mill Fortescue
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 01 July 18 23:23 BST (UK) »
Pedigree of Fortescue, of Dromisken, Co. Louth, Birchland Phillipaugh, Co. Devon, of Newrath, Co. Louth, c.1066 -- 1792.   

Dublin: National Library of Ireland, Genealogical Office: Ms.164, pp.170-173
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Re: John Mill Fortescue
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 01 July 18 23:30 BST (UK) »
It looks like he came to Ireland as Chief Constable.
File of letters concerning the resignation of Lieut Thomas Marshall, Chief Constable, Newport, County Mayo in favour of Lieut John Mills Fortescue
Letters from WH Banks, Ryde, Isle of Wright, [England], to Sir Edward Paget, writing on behalf of his brother in law, Lieut Thomas Marshall, Chief Constable, Newport, County Mayo, who wishes to resign his position in favour of another brother in law, Lieut John Mills Fortescue, formerly of the 103rd Regiment. Also covering letters from Paget, Sandhurst, [England], to Col Gossett. Also letter from Fortescue, [Shebbear], Hatherleigh, Devon, to Col Gossett, seeking instructions as to where and to whom he is to report in Ireland. Also letter from George Warburton, Inspector General, Castlegar, [County Galway], to Gossett, noting that the person who wishes to resign is ‘totally inefficient’ and that his brother in law would be eligible for the role having been in the army.

Found in The records of the Chief Secretary of Ireland’s Office
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Re: John Mill Fortescue
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 01 July 18 23:30 BST (UK) »
A history of the family of Fortescue in all its branches /
by Thomas (Fortescue) Lord Clermont.

Published / Created:    London : Ellis and White, 1880.

CallNo.  9C 26    Main Reading Room   NLI
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Re: John Mill Fortescue
« Reply #8 on: Monday 02 July 18 08:51 BST (UK) »
Thanks so much to everyone who has posted so far.  Brilliant information; amazing!  It seems as if John Mill Fortescue came to  Ireland from Shebbear to take the post of Chief  Constable of Dundrum and that he died in 1865.  It is how and if he is related to a family named Mill that eludes me.  However all this background to the  Fortescues especially of  Shebbear and  Buckland  Filleigh is invaluable.  Many thnaks