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Gravestone symbol
« on: Wednesday 04 July 18 00:13 BST (UK) »
Can you please help with the symbol shown on James Johnston's headstone, 1855, Australia?

Many thanks,

Jean.

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Re: Gravestone symbol
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 04 July 18 02:50 BST (UK) »
It may be an idea to give some info. about James?

Where was he born, what was his occ, where did he live (if anywhere other than Aus)?

The symbol may be connected to either of the above although just a thought?

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Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

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Re: Gravestone symbol
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 04 July 18 03:00 BST (UK) »
Not meaning to be rude but wondering/hoping it may look different darker to other sets of eyes?

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

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Re: Gravestone symbol
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 04 July 18 06:03 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the quick reply Annie.

We know very little about James Johnston.  When he married in Australia, he said he was a member of the Presbyterian Church of Scotland, but no indication of where he was born or when.  His house was called “Kelvin Grove” which I believe is a suburb of Glasgow, and this name was given to houses that some of James’ descendants lived in.

No death certificate has been found.  There was a coroners inquest into his death, which simply says he was killed by a falling tree.

His occupation was variously given in newspaper articles and marriage certificate (both his and his daughter) as farrier, blacksmith, horse-shoer and possibly veterinarian surgeon (the last not proven as it is only someone else’s comment), possibly a farmer when he died.

Having said that, the symbol does not look to me to be a horse-shoe.   It doesn not even look like the “collar” (don’t know its correct name) which goes round a horse’s neck when they were harnessed up to pull a wagon or some other heavy load?

Sorry, none of the above gives any clues – not to me, anyway – perhaps you can help please?

Jean


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Re: Gravestone symbol
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 04 July 18 07:49 BST (UK) »
The space in the centre is shield shaped. I wonder if there was originally something inset and the raised parts were just the surround? I don't know whether such a thing would have been likely but maybe something to consider.
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Re: Gravestone symbol
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 04 July 18 09:25 BST (UK) »
Can you tell us when James married, how old & names of his children in order as this may help with parentage & finding him on a census prior to arriving in aus?

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

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Re: Gravestone symbol
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 04 July 18 10:13 BST (UK) »
I should clarify my previous post "he said he was a member of the Presbyterian Church of Scotland, but no indication of where he was born or when."      We have no information if he was born in Australia or elsewhere and also no information of year of birth or age.   He died in 1855 and he was obviously an adult as we have newspaper articles which indicate he was a farrier, amongst other things.
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Re: Gravestone symbol
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 04 July 18 12:47 BST (UK) »
Is it a pair of arms?

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Re: Gravestone symbol
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 04 July 18 12:49 BST (UK) »
A wreath?