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I have lots of information, but cannot find much on these ancestors.
« on: Thursday 05 July 18 15:24 BST (UK) »
Hello,
I’m in the unusual position (for me) of having a lot of information on these particular ancestors, but i’m still unable to find much about them.

 The name of my great great grandmother (Mary Ann Thomas) seems to be so common in the area at the time, that I decided to abandon the search for her birth certificate and head straight for her parents’ marriage certificate.

This is where it gets really frustrating, as I appear to have some reliable information on them, but I cannot find the marriage.

The source of my information is from a brief family history written in 1959 by a great uncle of mine when he was retired (it is a real treasure). The ancestors I am currently searching for happen to be his mother and maternal grandparents.

I have been able to back up some of his information, from his parents’ marriage certificate and from the 1881 census. So I am pretty confident what he writes is accurate.

The marriage I am looking for is between Thomas Thomas (a tailor) born 1840 in Haverfordwest and Elizabeth John/Johns born 1847 in Wiston, Pembrokeshire.  It is believed the marriage took place around 1866, as their first child (Mary Ann) was born 1st May 1867. 

I can't think what I might be doing wrong.  Both appear to have been born, lived and died in the same area. So I don’t think it’s a case of their being married somewhere else.

I’d be very grateful for any suggestions. I hope this comment isn’t too long and rambling.

Regards,
Claire.





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Re: I have lots of information, but cannot find much on these ancestors.
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 05 July 18 15:31 BST (UK) »
Any chance that Thomas Thomas  also used other Christian names?

Louisa Maud

Would it be possible that Thomas Thomas might be recorded as marrying Elizabeth JONES 1868 Pembroke?
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Granath Sweden and London
Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent Canada (Toronto)
Coveney Kent Lambeth
Sondes kent and London

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« Reply #2 on: Thursday 05 July 18 15:36 BST (UK) »


Why not start proving who he was?
Call it cross-checking?
Why not tell us about him?We can help?

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« Reply #3 on: Thursday 05 July 18 15:52 BST (UK) »
Is it possible  you could search church ledgers within that area if you knew where they lived

LM
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Granath Sweden and London
Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent Canada (Toronto)
Coveney Kent Lambeth
Sondes kent and London


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« Reply #4 on: Thursday 05 July 18 16:05 BST (UK) »
Again it's worth bearing in mind that like today not all couples living as man and wife actually married so there may not be a marriage to find. 
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« Reply #5 on: Thursday 05 July 18 16:10 BST (UK) »
Hi this is the 1881 census for the Thomas family:-

Thomas 39 occ Tailor b Haverfordwest
Elizabeth 35 b Wiston
Mary A 14 b Wiston
Annie 1 b Haverfordwest
William 1 b Haverfordwest
Bit of a gap between children's births?
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Pelly/Pelley/Kingsbury/Challis/Nalder/Rochester/Raydenbow

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« Reply #6 on: Thursday 05 July 18 16:16 BST (UK) »
Oh, good point Milliepede. I didn’t consider that at all.

Yes, that is the census Keyboard 86. My great Uncle (who wrote the family history I keep referring to) does give some information on children who died very young. So that might account for some gaps.

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« Reply #7 on: Thursday 05 July 18 16:18 BST (UK) »
I hesitated to mention it as sometimes it doesn't go down well but I see so many posts looking for marriages that may not exist.

Thank you for not taking offence!
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« Reply #8 on: Thursday 05 July 18 16:20 BST (UK) »
Where  were they 1871

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Granath Sweden and London
Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent Canada (Toronto)
Coveney Kent Lambeth
Sondes kent and London