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Offline Sinann

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Re: What is the word after Thomas KING
« Reply #9 on: Friday 06 July 18 14:56 BST (UK) »
Did the profession of glazier/glazer even exist as such in 1718?  ???

My first thought was a badly-written "Glasgow"...

Karen

Oldest surviving stained glass is c1065 so yes they did have glaziers in 1718.
A person who only makes up stained glass, that is does not design, draw up or paint it, is a glazier. The person who fits it into the window frame is also a glazier but I think there was slightly different spellings for the two, I've forgotten now.
A person who fits glass into a frame/window is also a glazier probably getting the name from the stained glass fitters.

Offline Mike Morrell (NL)

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Re: What is the word after Thomas KING
« Reply #10 on: Friday 06 July 18 15:12 BST (UK) »
Just to weigh in on the Name/Occupation discussion (again): I've found no evidence to suggest that the groom's surname might have been anything other than "King". Searching on Ancestry and Familysearch for a marriage between Elizabeth Higgins and a "Thomas" in Hoby in 1714-1715 only shows a marriage to Thomas King (with King as surname) on 25 Nov 1714.

The 2 parish record transcriptions I linked to in my previous post also confirm (together with Ancestry and Familysearch) that the marriage on that date in Hoby was between Elizabeth Higgins and Thomas King. The 2 parish record transcriptions give his occupation as 'Glazier'.

I took a look on google maps and couldn't find any towns/villages in the same area that had names beginning with "Gla...".

So for me all the evidence I've found confirms "Glazier/Glazer/Glaser" as Thomas King's occupation. I've been unable to find any evidence for other explanations.

Mike
PS. Just by chance, I noticed that Ancestry had 2 different records for this marriage, one giving the date as 25 Nov and the other as 23 Nov. They both referred to the same source dataset with only one exception: the FHL Film Numbers were different. Familysearch.org confirmed the 25 Nov FHL number as being 'correct' while the marriage wasn't listed on the 23 Nov FHL number. I flagged the 23 Nov record as a possible "issue" on Ancestry.


I'm inclined to agree with StanleyChesterton that it is  his surname Glaser/Glazer  not much to compare handwriting with.
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Re: What is the word after Thomas KING
« Reply #11 on: Friday 06 July 18 15:35 BST (UK) »
Another vote for glaser/glazier as an occupation.

In the page from the printed transcript in this link:
https://www.archive.org/stream/leicestershirepa02phil#page/60/mode/2up
the marriages from 1715 onwards don't give occupations, but from 1709-1714, 10 out of 15 entries show them.
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Re: What is the word after Thomas KING
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 07 July 18 08:19 BST (UK) »
Sincere apologies as life got in the way of my getting back to my post. 

Horsleydown asked for another clipping in the same hand which is now attached.

Westy


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Re: What is the word after Thomas KING
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 07 July 18 15:48 BST (UK) »
Thanks Westy.

The clip has a good clear G on George and plenty of long-s in beginning & mid-word positions, so confirms the reading in my first post.

We also have a weaver (John Hubard) and a mil(l)er (Thomas Marsh) identified, so no particular reason not to see Glaser as your man's occupation.

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Re: What is the word after Thomas KING
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 07 July 18 15:53 BST (UK) »
Thanks so much Horsleydown.

Much appreciated.

Westy