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Re: Burns from Limavady area?
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 07 July 18 21:40 BST (UK) »
There are births for a Joseph (1912) & a Martha (1914) Burns** in Limavady district mother McLaughlin but father not called Thomas.

Martha Burns married 16 Jan.1934 Limavady district to Joseph Forsythe.
Hugh Burns married 18 Feb.1943 Limavady district Mary McGranaghan.

** think this Martha Burns died 1916.
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Re: Burns from Limavady area?
« Reply #19 on: Saturday 07 July 18 21:52 BST (UK) »
Yes the marriages are correct, matches the information I already have. The other siblings are Michael and Sarah, I think Hugh was the youngest but not 100% certain.



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Re: Burns from Limavady area?
« Reply #20 on: Saturday 07 July 18 22:00 BST (UK) »
Yes the marriages are correct, matches the information I already have. The other siblings are Michael and Sarah, I think Hugh was the youngest but not 100% certain.


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Re: Burns from Limavady area?
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 07 July 18 22:01 BST (UK) »
Just trying to pin down the family somehow. If Hugh was born 1915 or slightly later so that birth isn't online then there might be a chance the one or some of the older children will appear in 1911.

Michael Burns married 21 Apr.1931 Larne district Mary Todd.
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Re: Burns from Limavady area?
« Reply #22 on: Saturday 07 July 18 22:07 BST (UK) »
Has their Religion been decided yet?
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Re: Burns from Limavady area?
« Reply #23 on: Saturday 07 July 18 23:22 BST (UK) »
Hugh Burns and Mary Ann McGranaghan were the witnesses to the marriage of Robert Archibald and Sarah Lynch in St. Patrick's RC Church, Limavady on 25 November 1941, 20 year old spinster Sarah was from Leeke, the daughter of James Lynch a farm labourer.

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Re: Burns from Limavady area?
« Reply #24 on: Sunday 08 July 18 01:50 BST (UK) »
Widening the search slightly beyond the 'Limavady area', I wondered about this birth in 1911 for a Martha Burns, parents given as Thomas Burns and Elizabeth Callaghan of Campsie:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1911/01529/1619993.pdf

They also had a son Michael in 1907:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1907/01709/1677177.pdf

Mother and son in 1911:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Eglinton/Campsey_Lower/598511/   

Marriage in 1906 (bride as O'Callaghan):
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1906/10126/5684009.pdf

Following this line of enquiry, I then wondered about this unnamed boy as a candidate for Hugh, mother stated as Elizabeth Burns formerly Callaghan, no father's details given, but he was born on the day before halloween 1915, which is consistent with what you said at Reply #17:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1915/01360/1560825.pdf


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Re: Burns from Limavady area?
« Reply #25 on: Sunday 08 July 18 02:02 BST (UK) »
Further to above, I wondered about the following death of a Thomas Burns, although not conclusive, note in particular the comment regarding his paralysis condition and whereabouts since 1911 under 'Duration of Illness':
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1918/05187/4432442.pdf

I also noticed the following birth of a James Carr Burns to mother Elizabeth Burns in August 1914, no father mentioned, but the location is the same as for the unnamed child born at Halloween 1915 that I previously posted:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1914/01403/1576885.pdf

And this birth in March 1913 in Campsie, Elizabeth McLeese Burns born to Elizabeth Burns formerly Callaghan, again no father mentioned:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1913/01452/1593349.pdf


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Re: Burns from Limavady area?
« Reply #26 on: Sunday 08 July 18 02:40 BST (UK) »
So the proposed scenario playing out is that:

- Thomas Burns and Elizabeth (O')Callaghan married in 1906;
- The couple had children Michael in 1907 and Martha in 1911;
- Thomas was hospitalised with a paralysis condition in 1911 until dying in 1918;
- Elizabeth (Callaghan) Burns had illegitimate children Elizabeth in 1913, James in 1914 and an unnamed son - who is a candidate for Hugh - in 1915.

As to how Sarah Lynch (who married Robert Archibald in 1941) at Reply #23 fits in, note that there was a 1921 birth in Edenreagh, Eglinton for someone of that name with father's details that match those in the 1941 marriage record, the mother's name was given as... Elizabeth Callaghan.

Finally to close things off, a widow called Elizabeth Burns, father given as Charles O'Callaghan a labourer, married a James Lynch of Edenreagh, Eglinton, on 28 September 1928.