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Re: Mothers name on Birth Cert
« Reply #18 on: Monday 09 July 18 04:46 BST (UK) »
Following on from find for the marriage by osprey, here are the details.

March 39th 1875. At the District Church in the parish of St Mary Magdalene, Southwark.

Alfred ALLEN and Charlotte MARSHALL. He Bachelor, she widow. Both of full age.  His occ. engineer. Both of Alfred Place. His father Thomas ALLEN, a smith. Her father John LAMB, a gunsmith. Married after banns. Both signed. Witnesses John NOBLE and Annie ALLEN.

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Re: Mothers name on Birth Cert
« Reply #19 on: Monday 09 July 18 13:57 BST (UK) »
excellent! it was the correct marriage.

 ;D
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Mothers name on Birth Cert
« Reply #20 on: Monday 09 July 18 15:28 BST (UK) »
Wow so much info thank you!!

I'll be looking through it all as soon as I finish work.

Just caught snippet about Charlotte birthplace as Ireland ..I think I've come across that census before and disregarded due birthplace..hmm very strange! Lol
 


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Re: Mothers name on Birth Cert
« Reply #21 on: Monday 09 July 18 18:14 BST (UK) »
Here's a possibility for the birth of Eliza LAMB.

LAMB, Eliza
Mother's maiden surname. WHITE     
GRO Reference: 1845  M Quarter
Reg. District WINCHESTER & HURSLEY
Volume 07  Page 239    
 
And a possible marriage for Eliza's parents.

Marriages Dec 1842 
LAMB John       
WHITE Charlotte
Winchester &c
7/396

In connection with the above, it may be worth noting that when Henry was baptised in 1878 (see reply #14), a child with the surname WHITE was baptised on the same day and from the same address, which was 12 King & Queen Street.

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Re: Mothers name on Birth Cert
« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 10 July 18 23:26 BST (UK) »
Hi Zoe.
Further information would be available regarding your Charlotte, both following her second marriage and, on the other hand, regarding her ancestry and extended family.

It is up to you to let us know the direction you wish to take with your searches.
Sue
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Re: Mothers name on Birth Cert
« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 11 July 18 20:50 BST (UK) »
Hi Zoe.
Further information would be available regarding your Charlotte, both following her second marriage and, on the other hand, regarding her ancestry and extended family.

It is up to you to let us know the direction you wish to take with your searches.
Sue

Hi Sue
Thankyou for your kind msg, I'm interested in it all as she's next in-line above my great grandmother who I knew as a child.

From what I've found so far I think she spent time in workhouses but if you have any further info I'd be more than grateful for your help.

Many thanks Zoe x

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Re: Mothers name on Birth Cert
« Reply #24 on: Thursday 12 July 18 08:29 BST (UK) »


Hi Sue
Thankyou for your kind msg, I'm interested in it all as she's next in-line above my great grandmother who I knew as a child.

From what I've found so far I think she spent time in workhouses but if you have any further info I'd be more than grateful for your help.

Many thanks Zoe x

There are numerous workhouse admission and discharge records for women named Charlotte ALLEN.
The only one which I could confidently confirm as yours is..

Charlotte Allen. CofE.
Admitted at Southwark/Camberwell
Wife of Fredk M, an engineer.
Discharge.
Reason for discharge-Transferred to Infirmary
Remarks-Mental.

After this, I have not made another definite sighting for Charlotte

The couple appear on the 1901 census with daughters Rose and Ethel and marriages of the  children, Albert Edward, Charles and Ethel are digitally available to view. I will search further for  Lottie Louisa ALLEN, baptised 1889 

Frederick ALLEN was registered to vote in 1907 and at the same address as the 1911. 14 Bergham Mews
Frederick ALLEN is in 1911 census and is a lodger with a family named BOND.

Sue
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Re: Mothers name on Birth Cert
« Reply #25 on: Thursday 12 July 18 19:52 BST (UK) »
Yes the only one I was sure about was the Southwark/Camberwell one too. 
There is another discharge book that mentions transfer to Horton Asylum so she may have ended up there bless her, im just not 100% sure.

I'd be very grateful for Charles Allen's marriage info as he disappeared off to Australia and was never heard from again so every little clue helps with him! Lol

Also not sure who Lottie Louisa ALLEN is?

Many thanks x

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« Reply #26 on: Friday 13 July 18 00:47 BST (UK) »
About Lottie.
Lottie Louisa ALLEN is very confusing. May be just a coincidence of names. Not sure.

Baptism parish of St John the Baptist. Middlesex. Year 1889.
June 9th.
Lottie Louisa child of Frederick and Charlotte ALLEN. 39 Elmore Street. He an Engineer.

Births Dec 1879 
ALLEN Lottie Louisa
St. Saviour
1d/177
 
GRO information.

ALLEN, Lottie  Louisa
Mother's maiden surname  NOURISH    
GRO Reference 1879  D Quarter
ST SAVIOUR SURREY
Volume 01D  Page 177    
 
I do not see Lottie Louisa living with the family you are researching .
 
 Sue
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I think I see another child to the  couple ALLEN and NOURISH, so that probably confirms Lottie Louisa as not related to your family. Just a coincidence of parental names and occupations!
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