Thomas Henry Boik

[judb]

From TROVE

(Already mentioned above but here's a newspaper mention)
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/117020101
30 Dec 1889
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/227569009
Thomas BOIK bound over to keep the peace after threatening Louisa LUCKING.

Judith

[Kezzza]

Good grief -  here's another marriage on same day -
From:
London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1932
Marriage
16 May 1875, at St Andrew and St Philip, Kensal Green, Kensington and Chelsea, England
Mary Louisa BETTS, 21, spinster, father: William BETTS, tailor
Nathaniel James MOLE, 21, bachelor, bootmaker, father: Charles MOLE, gentleman
Both living at 7 Elcom? St,
Witnesses: Edward Arthur SNOOK, Marian E SNOOK
Register Type:   Parish Register

HOwever - this woman is still in UK (Wandsworth) in 1891 and 1911 with husband James MOLE, bootmaker and 5 children all born in or around London. Her birthplace is given as Bloomsbury, approximate birthdate 1854

What a coincidence the marriage date.  Worth remembering that there are two women of the same name - or are there three of them???

Judith

Hey Judith,
Thanks for the info. This Mary Louisa Betts father was George Betts and mother was Elizabeth Stevens. 

[Kezzza]

The Mary Louise BETTS/John Frederick LUCKING marriage was at West Ham, Vol 4a, p87, Apr qr 1875  My information doesn't have an exact date.

Judith

Hey Judith, I have a copy of the marriage cert from church records the date was 16th May 1875 

[judb]

I know the Kensington marriage is not the right woman, but it does illustrate the fact that there are two women of the same name so easy to confuse.  At least the one who married Mr MOLE stayed in England!

I don't think your Louisa did actually marry BOIK but used her own marriage date on the registration of the child in NSW.  Who was the informant for the birth registration, please?

Judith

[Milliepede]

Wow this has moved on apace! 

Just to reiterate the correct Mary Louisa Betts had a father called George. 

I would agree with Judith she used the same marriage date.

[Milliepede]

Hey Yes they are the correct people however I wasn’t able to find them all at the same location on a census. The only person I found was Martha Hannah who was living with the Aunty (Louisa’s sister)
This is one confusing family. Louisa ended up having about 4 or 5 different partners!

Louisa Elizabeth born Sep 1876 West Ham Union may have died - this death would fit 

Louisa Elizabeth Lucking Jun 1879 West Ham Union age 2

[Kezzza]

I know the Kensington marriage is not the right woman, but it does illustrate the fact that there are two women of the same name so easy to confuse.  At least the one who married Mr MOLE stayed in England!

I don't think your Louisa did actually marry BOIK but used her own marriage date on the registration of the child in NSW.  Who was the informant for the birth registration, please?

Judith

Hey Judith

The informant with Mary Louisa

The only reason I’m thinking it is the same person is that there is no death record for Lucking and the ages sort of work out.

But at the same time you are correct in that she just used that marriage on the form.

[Kezzza]

I remember seeing an article on Trove that was in relation to Lucking/Boik/ Smithwick’s that had something about a Smee (I know Smee is one of the mothers maiden names on BDM in the UK that had a birth of a Frederick)I thought I saved the article but apparently I didn’t, I have been trying to find it again 

[Milliepede]

This is the birth you refer to

Frederick Lucking Sep 1852 Chelmsford mothers maiden name Smee

There's a William Jun 1848 Frederick Dec 1849 Arthur Jun 1857 George Mar 1859 same parents surnames all Chelmsford