Author Topic: McHamiltons from The Shetlands  (Read 9054 times)

Offline whiteout7

  • RootsChat Aristocrat
  • ******
  • Posts: 1,948
    • View Profile
Re: McHamiltons from The Shetlands
« Reply #36 on: Saturday 14 July 18 11:14 BST (UK) »
The son is M'Hamilton here:

 "The Daily Telegraph (Sydney, NSW : 1883 - 1930)  Fri 17 May 1929

£300 for Broken Leg.— John Harold M'Hamilton, Hurstville, in the District Court yesterday secured £300 damages from Thomas J. Younger, railway employee, of Kogarah, in respect of a broken leg, received whenhe was run down by .Younger's motor-car while cycling along Forest -
Road, Hurstville, last August."
Wemyss/Crombie/Laing/Blyth (West Wemyss)
Givens/Normand (Dysart)
Clark/Lister (Dysart)
Wilkinson/Simson (Kettle or Kettlehill)

Offline Banks2233

  • RootsChat Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 158
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: McHamiltons from The Shetlands
« Reply #37 on: Saturday 14 July 18 14:19 BST (UK) »
Yet another error, but it is him. Isn't it any wonder he was hit on Forest Road, I know it well and it's a very busy Road. I cannot believe you found the article, I've been searching through trove looking for marriage or death notices, nothing yet.

Offline Rosinish

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 14,239
  • PASSED & PAST
    • View Profile
Re: McHamiltons from The Shetlands
« Reply #38 on: Saturday 14 July 18 17:40 BST (UK) »
Out of pure curiosity, I did a search on SP for name John Harold & left surname blank 1869 - 1871

Only 2 have shown in whole of Scotland & both are Harold John  ::)

CRAIG HAROLD JOHN 1871
570/ 9 Lochwinnoch (Renfrew)
   
ROSS HAROLD JOHN 1869
888/ 30 Kirkcowan (Dumfries & Galloway)

John Harold Hamilton appears to have been born outside Scotland or under a different name?

The marriage is the only possible way forward for his mothers' name (if the true info. was given).

I checked 1871 census (Shetland) for name Henrietta (Hetty), a few names show, one as a servant but no child with her & I can't see a 'fitting' John in other households.

John Harolds' age may be out from what OP has & if so, by how many yrs is unknown?

Annie

South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

Offline Rosinish

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 14,239
  • PASSED & PAST
    • View Profile
Re: McHamiltons from The Shetlands
« Reply #39 on: Saturday 14 July 18 17:58 BST (UK) »
Maybe getting hot  ???

John Hamilton
10 Jul 1868
DALRY, KIRKCUDBRIGHT
Father John Hamilton
Mother Helen Ireland (Could she be Hetty)?

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XYBM-N29

Annie

South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"


Offline Rosinish

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 14,239
  • PASSED & PAST
    • View Profile
Re: McHamiltons from The Shetlands
« Reply #40 on: Saturday 14 July 18 18:02 BST (UK) »
Marriage;

HAMILTON JOHN & IRELAND HELEN
1866
865/ 3
Dalry (Kirkcudbright)

Now to check 1871

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

Offline Rosinish

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 14,239
  • PASSED & PAST
    • View Profile
Re: McHamiltons from The Shetlands
« Reply #41 on: Saturday 14 July 18 18:15 BST (UK) »
1871 (Transcribed as Hampton) on Anc* but a note by someone with name Hamilton

Address - Laight Cottage, Dalmellington, Ayrshire

John Hampton 32 (Occupation - Agnestlmae Sacona)  ???
Hellen Hampton 37    
Alexd Hampton 4    
John Hampton 2    
Thomas Marwell 17    
John Murphy 23    

Annie

Add, By 1901 John (2) is a Joiner & married to Jane living in Hutchesontown, Lanark  :-\
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

Offline Skoosh

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 5,736
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: McHamiltons from The Shetlands
« Reply #42 on: Saturday 14 July 18 21:10 BST (UK) »
Annie, looks more like an affliction than a job!  ;D

Skoosh.

Offline whiteout7

  • RootsChat Aristocrat
  • ******
  • Posts: 1,948
    • View Profile
Re: McHamiltons from The Shetlands
« Reply #43 on: Saturday 14 July 18 21:17 BST (UK) »
"This would/could fit for the birth of John James but won't help with birth of son John Harold?

HAMILTON JOHN JAMES
GEORGE HAMILTON/JANE GORDON FR391 (Parents)
19/05/1829
871/20 39 Kirkcudbright"


There are some notes that mention George Hamilton and Jane Gordon here, in relation to a Hamilton family in Maitland,  New South Wales, Australia.

https://www.genealogy.com/ftm/b/e/g/Linda-Begg/WEBSITE-0001/UHP-0010.html

Their birth records seem to be confusing too
Who knows if they are related to John Harold McHamilton
Wemyss/Crombie/Laing/Blyth (West Wemyss)
Givens/Normand (Dysart)
Clark/Lister (Dysart)
Wilkinson/Simson (Kettle or Kettlehill)

Offline Rosinish

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 14,239
  • PASSED & PAST
    • View Profile
Re: McHamiltons from The Shetlands
« Reply #44 on: Saturday 14 July 18 22:45 BST (UK) »
Annie, looks more like an affliction than a job!  ;D

Maybe a foreign language  ;D as in 1881 occ. is clearly "Agr. Labourer"

1871 (Transcribed as Hampton) on Anc* but a note by someone with name Hamilton

Address - Laight Cottage, Dalmellington, Ayrshire

John Hampton 32 (Occupation - Agnestlmae Sacona)  ???
Hellen Hampton 37    
Alexd Hampton 4    
John Hampton 2    
Thomas Marwell 17    
John Murphy 23    

Add, By 1901 John (2) is a Joiner & married to Jane living in Hutchesontown, Lanark  :-\

1881 Family at same address with John now remarried

John Hamilton 41 (Agr. Labourer)
Jane Hamilton 40
Alexander Hamilton 14
John Hamilton 12
Robert Hamilton    9

1891 same address

John Hamilton 52 (Agricultural Lab)
Jane Hamilton 50
Robert Hamilton 19
Mary Hamilton 6

So whether this family is somehow related the the family Monica found in Shetland in 1881 is anyones guess but both families have a Kirkcudbright connection hence my posting as it may come in handy at a later date?

John Hamilton Sr. also b Kirkcudbright same as John James who was in Shetland!

Annie

South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"