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John Bell & Margaret Cowan missing BMDs
« on: Monday 09 July 18 12:23 BST (UK) »
I am researching this couple out of sheer nosiness! some frustrating hard to locate records are creating gaps in their story & I don't like gaps!
John Bell born around 1818 Newcastle upon Tyne (parents Thomas & Margaret)
Margaret Ann Cowan born abt 1827 South Shields, parents unknown
No marriage to be found, any help appreciated.
Children as follows:
BELL, AMELIA  SERENA     COWAN     
GRO Reference: 1845  M Quarter in DURHAM AND LANCHESTER  Volume 24  Page 93
Cannot find a baptism
BELL, JOHN  CHARLES     COWAN     
GRO Reference: 1853  D Quarter in RIPON  Volume 09A  Page 58
BELL, MARGARET  LOUISA     COWAN     
GRO Reference: 1855  D Quarter in RIPON  Volume 09A  Page 64
BELL, CLARA  ANN     COWAN     
GRO Reference: 1857  S Quarter in RIPON  Volume 09A  Page 71   
BELL, WILLIAM  HENRY     COWAN     
GRO Reference: 1859  M Quarter in RIPON  Volume 09A  Page 68
I have baptisms for these four and burials for Margaret Louisa & William Henry, all at Ripon/Sharow
Interestingly the 1851 census shows John as unmarried, living at Picton Place Newcastle with widowed mother & siblings. Margaret seems to be lodging in Edinburgh with Amelia.
1861 shows john in Kensington with Amelia & John Charles, Margaret Ann is in Elswick with Clara Ann.
John remarries as a widower in 1865. I can't find any suitable death for Margaret, or a sensible 1871 return if they parted. John was very wealthy & in the public eye, I think it unlikely he would risk bigamy.
Any help finding BMDs for Margaret would be great
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Re: John Bell & Margaret Cowan missing BMDs
« Reply #1 on: Monday 09 July 18 13:01 BST (UK) »
Margaret was only about 18 when first child born.  Being from the North East - any chance they married in Scotland?
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Re: John Bell & Margaret Cowan missing BMDs
« Reply #2 on: Monday 09 July 18 13:39 BST (UK) »
From Freereg Baptisms

Durham St Oswald 24 Jan 1845

Amelia Serena Bell - Parents John and Margaret

Abode Church Street

Father occupation Iron Merchant

It is image no 738 in the Bts for Durham St Oswald.

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Dent (Haltwhistle and Sacriston), Bell and Jetson (Haltwhistle), Postle, Ward, Longstaff, Purvis, Manners, Parnaby and Hardy (Co. Durham), Kennedy and McRobert (Banffshire), Reid(Bathgate), Watson (Wemyss), Graham (Libberton), Sandilands (Carmichael), Munro (Dingwall)

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Re: John Bell & Margaret Cowan missing BMDs
« Reply #3 on: Monday 09 July 18 15:35 BST (UK) »
CaroleW I have searched Scotland, via Ancestry/FindMyPast/Family Search & Scotlands People for a marriage with no luck. I've searched from around 1835 through to 1851 with no luck.
Millmoor, thanks for the baptism record, I always like to know where they were living :) I really must put FreeReg on my list of goto's
Newson, Steavenson, Walker, Taylor, Dobson, Gardner, Clark, Wilson, Smith, Crossland, Goldfinch, Burnett, Hebdon, Peers, Strother, Askew, Bower, Beckwith, Patton, White, Turner, Nelson, Gilpin, Tomlinson, Thompson, Spedding, Wilkes, Carr, Butterfield, Ormandy, Wilkinson, Cocking, Glover, Pennington, Bowker, Kitching, Langhorn, Haworth, Kirkham.


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Re: John Bell & Margaret Cowan missing BMDs
« Reply #4 on: Monday 09 July 18 22:38 BST (UK) »
You say John was wealthy - did he leave a Will?  If so, it may well mention his children and, possibly clarify the matter. If he and MArgaret never married then it is possible the Will may refer to that. It may not - but you never know.
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Re: John Bell & Margaret Cowan missing BMDs
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 10 July 18 11:15 BST (UK) »
You say John was wealthy - did he leave a Will?  If so, it may well mention his children and, possibly clarify the matter. If he and MArgaret never married then it is possible the Will may refer to that. It may not - but you never know.
Good thinking lizdb, he did leave a will. i have probate details and a newspaper report summarising his bequests but have taken the plunge & ordered the document.
Newson, Steavenson, Walker, Taylor, Dobson, Gardner, Clark, Wilson, Smith, Crossland, Goldfinch, Burnett, Hebdon, Peers, Strother, Askew, Bower, Beckwith, Patton, White, Turner, Nelson, Gilpin, Tomlinson, Thompson, Spedding, Wilkes, Carr, Butterfield, Ormandy, Wilkinson, Cocking, Glover, Pennington, Bowker, Kitching, Langhorn, Haworth, Kirkham.

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Re: John Bell & Margaret Cowan missing BMDs
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 10 July 18 22:46 BST (UK) »
Hhmm, I haven't investigated this one further to check if it could be the right one

Marriages Dec 1845   
**BELL    John        Carlisle    25   66    
BEWSHER    John        Carlisle    25   66   
**COWEN    Margaret        Carlisle    25   66    
DOBINSON    Hannah        Carlisle    25   66    
HOWE    Dorathy        Carlisle    25   66    
Kitchin    Daniel        Carlisle    25   66    
MARSHALL    Jane        Carlisle    25   66    
SCOTT    Stewart        Carlisle    25   66
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Re: John Bell & Margaret Cowan missing BMDs
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 11 July 18 11:11 BST (UK) »
Girlguide, thank you, well spotted! That could be them, I will look at census info & other Bell/Cowan/Cowen births to see if I can eliminate other possible couples :)
Newson, Steavenson, Walker, Taylor, Dobson, Gardner, Clark, Wilson, Smith, Crossland, Goldfinch, Burnett, Hebdon, Peers, Strother, Askew, Bower, Beckwith, Patton, White, Turner, Nelson, Gilpin, Tomlinson, Thompson, Spedding, Wilkes, Carr, Butterfield, Ormandy, Wilkinson, Cocking, Glover, Pennington, Bowker, Kitching, Langhorn, Haworth, Kirkham.

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Re: John Bell & Margaret Cowan missing BMDs
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 11 July 18 11:20 BST (UK) »
Not them I'm afraid, from The Carlisle Journal 22nd November 1845
Margaret Cowen married Daniel Kitchen & John Bell married Hannah Dobinson :(
Newson, Steavenson, Walker, Taylor, Dobson, Gardner, Clark, Wilson, Smith, Crossland, Goldfinch, Burnett, Hebdon, Peers, Strother, Askew, Bower, Beckwith, Patton, White, Turner, Nelson, Gilpin, Tomlinson, Thompson, Spedding, Wilkes, Carr, Butterfield, Ormandy, Wilkinson, Cocking, Glover, Pennington, Bowker, Kitching, Langhorn, Haworth, Kirkham.