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Re: Ridgard Family from Derby
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 11 July 18 19:42 BST (UK) »
Without wanting to pry into details are you 100% certain that Jack did stay with Dorothea? If she had children by another man after he left, they would still be registered as Ridgard (as that was her legal name) and with Williams as as their mother's maiden name.
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Re: Ridgard Family from Derby
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 12 July 18 10:44 BST (UK) »
No, I am not sure of anything at all - but even if they weren't Jack's sons I still can't locate either him or them  :(

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Re: Ridgard Family from Derby
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 12 July 18 10:53 BST (UK) »
A thought, if they werenít his sons, although registered as Ridgard, they may have been known by their real fatherís surname as they grew up. You can call yourself anything you like as long as it isnít to defraud! Dorothea may also have taken a new partnerís name.
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Re: Ridgard Family from Derby
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 12 July 18 11:32 BST (UK) »
I hadn't thought of that ... but if so, I have no hope of finding them as I have no idea what the name could be ...
Thank you for taking the time to help me  :)

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Re: Ridgard Family from Derby
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 12 July 18 23:39 BST (UK) »
If you could possibly send for a copy of the marriage cert that would tell us the age Dorothea gave and who her father was -witnesses may hold some clues too.
If we could find Dorothea's birth and famiy and even her death reg it may help locate her and the children and may lead to other discoveries

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Re: Ridgard Family from Derby
« Reply #14 on: Friday 13 July 18 22:40 BST (UK) »
I think groom was correct in saying that unless she'd changed her surname any children she had after Jack had left would still be Ridgard since that was her legal name.

I suspect that possibly son Robert b.1927 may possibly have been Jack's son but have found out that the other 4 sons were also registered with another surname.  Using vol./page no.  Frederick was also registered as 'Beresford' and next 3 sons also registered as 'Steele'.

So she had at least 4 children by 2 different men and 'Jack' may indeed have gone to Canada.

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Re: Ridgard Family from Derby
« Reply #15 on: Friday 13 July 18 23:36 BST (UK) »
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I suspect that possibly son Robert b.1927 may possibly have been Jack's son but have found out that the other 4 sons were also registered with another surname.  Using vol./page no.  Frederick was also registered as 'Beresford' and next 3 sons also registered as 'Steele'.

So she had at least 4 children by 2 different men and 'Jack' may indeed have gone to Canada.

That's a brilliant find, Annette. So it does look, as we suspected, that the marriage broke up.
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Re: Ridgard Family from Derby
« Reply #16 on: Friday 13 July 18 23:42 BST (UK) »
Possibility that Frederick died as a baby

Frederick Beresford
Death Age:   0
Birth Date:   abt 1930
Registration Date:   Dec 1930
Registration district:   Derby
Volume:   7b
Page:   650

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Re: Ridgard Family from Derby
« Reply #17 on: Friday 13 July 18 23:46 BST (UK) »
Derek's death:

Derek Samuel Steele
Age:   58
Birth Date:   18 Oct 1936
Death:   May 1995
Derby Derbyshire
Register Number:   B32C
District and Subdistrict:   3941B
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