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Re: Walter Collins
« Reply #9 on: Friday 13 July 18 02:38 BST (UK) »
Possibly the Brunswick reference was sourced from this record.  I note that Walter's occupation on the birth certificates for his two children in Tasmania was house painter and painter.

COLLINS Walter
Unemployed
Date 1892
Place East Brunswick, Victoria
Status Married
Occupation Painter.
Source: Index to the Register of unemployed tradesmen and labourers.
Public Record Office Victoria: VPRS 1053/P0 Units 1-3.  Unit 2 Pge 121
Comment No of children 2

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Re: Walter Collins
« Reply #10 on: Friday 13 July 18 02:49 BST (UK) »
Is this the same man as this one arrived in 1877 on the LADY BELMORE 

COLLINS Walter
Convict transportation
Arrived 1 Jan 1877 on Lady Belmore
Source: Tasmanian convicts [index]
Conduct Record: CON37/10 p5974.
Comment: Free to colony. Tried Launceston Apr 1877

Walter and Rebecca were in Tasmania by 1872.

We are still trying to find when Walter and his wife Rebecca arrived from England.

There are several mentions of Walter COLLINS, a seaman, in the Gazettes.  Not everyone has access to subscription only websites so I've linked a pdf of the notice. 

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Re: Walter Collins
« Reply #11 on: Friday 13 July 18 03:27 BST (UK) »
BDM VIC death
1889 / 1913 COLLINS Guinevere Eulalia parents  Walt / Rebecca (BIDDULPH)
age 7  died Fitz N


Victoria Police Gazette 23 Apr 1878  (extract from Tasmania Crime Report)
https://www.ancestry.com.au/interactive/60885/44406_b220356-00147?
….Walter COLLINS  "Lady Belmore...…..escaped from gang Queens Domain...…..FC..(Free to the colony)
I'm a bit confused abt the death above as she would of been born abt 1882, as at this time Rebecca was divorced from Walter Collins and was with Hetherington??
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Re: Walter Collins
« Reply #12 on: Friday 13 July 18 03:35 BST (UK) »
Is this the same man as this one arrived in 1877 on the LADY BELMORE 

COLLINS Walter
Convict transportation
Arrived 1 Jan 1877 on Lady Belmore
Source: Tasmanian convicts [index]
Conduct Record: CON37/10 p5974.
Comment: Free to colony. Tried Launceston Apr 1877

Walter and Rebecca were in Tasmania by 1872.

We are still trying to find when Walter and his wife Rebecca arrived from England.

There are several mentions of Walter COLLINS, a seaman, in the Gazettes.  Not everyone has access to subscription only websites so I've linked a pdf of the notice. 

Cando

Thanks for all that info is it possible he went back to UK or main land then was sent back as a convict?? Also  what does Free to Colony mean was  he convicted in the Colonies??
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Re: Walter Collins
« Reply #13 on: Friday 13 July 18 03:39 BST (UK) »
BDM VIC death
1889 / 1913 COLLINS Guinevere Eulalia parents  Walt / Rebecca (BIDDULPH)
age 7  died Fitz N


Victoria Police Gazette 23 Apr 1878  (extract from Tasmania Crime Report)
https://www.ancestry.com.au/interactive/60885/44406_b220356-00147?
….Walter COLLINS  "Lady Belmore...…..escaped from gang Queens Domain...…..FC..(Free to the colony)
I'm a bit confused abt the death above as she would of been born abt 1882, as at this time Rebecca was divorced from Walter Collins and was with Hetherington??

I'm also confused Freya ;)  Did Nathan George HETHERINGTON die in Sandhurst [Bendigo]?

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Re: Walter Collins
« Reply #14 on: Friday 13 July 18 03:42 BST (UK) »
Is this the same man as this one arrived in 1877 on the LADY BELMORE 

COLLINS Walter
Convict transportation
Arrived 1 Jan 1877 on Lady Belmore
Source: Tasmanian convicts [index]
Conduct Record: CON37/10 p5974.
Comment: Free to colony. Tried Launceston Apr 1877

Walter and Rebecca were in Tasmania by 1872.

We are still trying to find when Walter and his wife Rebecca arrived from England.

There are several mentions of Walter COLLINS, a seaman, in the Gazettes.  Not everyone has access to subscription only websites so I've linked a pdf of the notice. 

Cando

Thanks for all that info is it possible he went back to UK or main land then was sent back as a convict?? Also  what does Free to Colony mean was  he convicted in the Colonies??

I interpret the record as Walter the seaman, arrived on the LADY BELMORE on 1 Jan 1877 and was convicted in Tasmania therefore he would have been 'free to the colony".
I doubt it is the same Walter COLLINS.  Just my two bob's worth ;D

These ancestors certainly didn't make it easy for researchers ::)

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Re: Walter Collins
« Reply #15 on: Friday 13 July 18 03:50 BST (UK) »
My take   :)
 
Walter, who had been convicted Launceston, Tasmania, in 1877, and had escaped and been re-captured and then he escaped again

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/173145546  9 April 1879...

So he was a (colonial) convict.  :)  (adding, I also doubt he was the Walter COLLINS the OP is seeking - re his occupation ).

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Re: Walter Collins
« Reply #16 on: Friday 13 July 18 03:51 BST (UK) »
I found Nathan George HETHERINGTON 
HETHERINGTON
George Nathaniel
Funeral notice
19APR1929
Funeral

at Swansea
Newcastle Herald
19APR1929

Also Rebecca

HETHERINGTON
Rebecca
Funeral notice
30NOV1928
Funeral

at Swansea
Newcastle Herald
30NOV1928

But not sure....
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Re: Walter Collins
« Reply #17 on: Friday 13 July 18 03:53 BST (UK) »
Shame he sounds v interesting ;D
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