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Missing parents info in WA BDM index - LEVITT
« on: Thursday 12 July 18 03:12 BST (UK) »
I was surprised to find the following birth and death in the WA BDM indexes:

birth Levitt  Frank  Male     Williams  86  1918 
death Levitt  Frank  Male      Perth  188  1927 

with no mother or father listed. Is this unusual? Would the actual certificates have this information?

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Norfolk: DEWING, OUGHTON, TAYLOR,
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Ireland: KEATING, Limerick; NELSON, Donegal
Scotland: BENNIE, Glasgow; COOK, Renfrewshire; HENDERSON, Alloa/Dundee; HUNTER, Glasgow; KIRKWOOD, Alloa; LAMONT, Dalkeith; YOUNG, Glasgow
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Re: Missing parents info in WA BDM index - LEVITT
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 12 July 18 03:23 BST (UK) »
I don't know the answer, but I have just read the following on their website:

Please note that some entries in Open Era records may cause offence. In order to avoid causing offence, the copy you receive may be redacted unless you specifically ask for an un-redacted copy. By asking for an un-redacted copy, you accept that the copy you receive could contain words that may cause, or be capable of causing, offence to you or someone else who is aware of it.

http://www.bdm.dotag.wa.gov.au/U/uncertified_copies.aspx?uid=1003-4731-8003-7880

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Re: Missing parents info in WA BDM index - LEVITT
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 12 July 18 04:28 BST (UK) »
I've seen many of the later WA death records without parent names - it may relate to when the indexes were created. I've not seen a birth index without parent names but given this one is 1918, it could be done in more recent times. Perhaps they are following the England/Wales index ideas!

The birth certificate would have whatever parent names were provided (presumably at least a mother) - but death certificates would/would not depending on the knowledge of the informant.

WA certificates contain much the same information as those from the eastern mainland states.

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Re: Missing parents info in WA BDM index - LEVITT
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 12 July 18 04:31 BST (UK) »
Parents have never been detailed on the Birth Indexes in WA post 1905.  I haven't had to search recently so don't know if that has been updated.

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Re: Missing parents info in WA BDM index - LEVITT
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 12 July 18 04:40 BST (UK) »
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article38006432
Deaths
LEVITT.-On February 5, at the Children's Hospital, Frank, the dearly beloved son of Mr. and Mrs. A. Levitt, of Mundijong; aged 8 years and 7 months.

Burial
http://www2.mcb.wa.gov.au/NameSearch/details.php?id=KB00034575

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mundijong,_Western_Australia

The birth was registered in the Williams District so a quick search of the Sub division of Swan, sub-division of Williams.


LEVITT Alexander "Wonnaminta"  Narrogin   Farm Hand
LEVITT Fanny     "Wonnaminta"   Narrogin  HD

And their deaths
LEVITT Alexander 89 years
Father Elijah    Mother Unknown
District Williams  Reg#39 1966    

LEVITT Fanny    73 years
Father    James    Mother Unknown
Disrict Perth    Reg#1334    1956

Interred at Narrogin cemetery
LEVITT Alexander. 1 June 1966 - aged 89. Father of Muriel, Alex and Bernice. - ANG - ZL.4
LEVITT Fanny. 73 years. 21 May 1956. - ANG - ZL.3

And their marriage in England
http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
Marriages Sep 1910 
LEVITT Alexander  Chesterton    3b/1086   
BOOTH Fanny    Chesterton    3b/1086   

According to the census, Alexander was born c1877 Landbeach, Cambridgeshire, England.
Births Jun 1877   
LEVITT    Alexander        Chesterton    3b/498

Mr Alex LEVITT and Mrs A LEVITT departed London on 16 Sep 1910 on the ORSOVA and were contracted to land in Western Australia.

You can search the English census on familysearch.org or at subscription only websites.  Many libraries have the Library Edition of Ancestry and Find My Past. 

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Re: Missing parents info in WA BDM index - LEVITT
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 12 July 18 05:40 BST (UK) »
I don't know the answer, but I have just read the following on their website:

Please note that some entries in Open Era records may cause offence. In order to avoid causing offence, the copy you receive may be redacted unless you specifically ask for an un-redacted copy. By asking for an un-redacted copy, you accept that the copy you receive could contain words that may cause, or be capable of causing, offence to you or someone else who is aware of it.

http://www.bdm.dotag.wa.gov.au/U/uncertified_copies.aspx?uid=1003-4731-8003-7880

JM

JM that has to do with the removal of words from original entries, not names.  Some idiot thought it was a good idea.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-05-17/aboriginal-term-deemed-offensive-births-deaths-marriages/9753430

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Re: Missing parents info in WA BDM index - LEVITT
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 12 July 18 06:05 BST (UK) »
 :)

And if WA BDM's index was prepared with similar pattern re names as NSW was, then Aboriginal can be found under headings including   Name as recently as 1918, so not just in Early Church Records.   I agree, re the person who thought it a good idea.   

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Re: Missing parents info in WA BDM index - LEVITT
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 12 July 18 07:24 BST (UK) »
Very recently here in WA, one document (Birth Certificate?) caused offence to an Aboriginal gent with the word "Aboriginal" redacted.

Edit: Just now noted Dundee's entry above. The link tells the story!
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Re: Missing parents info in WA BDM index - LEVITT
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 12 July 18 07:27 BST (UK) »
Thanks, everyone, for all the feedback. The birth certificate sounds like the one I need.

This is not my direct family but one a relative had a long association with. I am curious about the parentage of Frank. However, I just checked and there's a 100 year rule for birth certificates being available to non-family members, so I'll have to wait until next year to satisfy my curiosity.


England:
Durham: COULSON, FENWICK, HUNTER, LOWES, NAYLOR, ROBSON
Norfolk: DEWING, OUGHTON, TAYLOR,
Lancashire: TWEDDLE
Ireland: KEATING, Limerick; NELSON, Donegal
Scotland: BENNIE, Glasgow; COOK, Renfrewshire; HENDERSON, Alloa/Dundee; HUNTER, Glasgow; KIRKWOOD, Alloa; LAMONT, Dalkeith; YOUNG, Glasgow
Switzerland: VOSTI, DELUBINI
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk