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Re: Patrick BARRETT brickwall
« Reply #18 on: Friday 13 July 18 09:29 BST (UK) »
An obit for the Patrick who may be the father of your Patrick - died May1918
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/116773540
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/119234243

And here an anomaly - the Monaro Pioneers site gives Patrick senior's wif as Ellen COMANS but thi newspaper report gives the name of the wife as nee RYAN.  The death date is the same  ??? ??? ???
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/103675624

NSW BMD index gives her parents' forenames as James and Katherine.

Time for me to stop tonight - will have another hunt tomorrow.

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Re: Patrick BARRETT brickwall
« Reply #19 on: Friday 13 July 18 09:40 BST (UK) »
Just a small hint which may -or may not - be useful.  Patrick's daughter's BC shows his birthplace as Molonglo - there is a Monga about 10k from Reidsdale.  Perhaps this is what was meant? Just a thought!

Judith

Thanks Judith I am not sure where  Molonglo is. I did search on Google and today all I could find was Molonglo Valley near Canberra.
There is also a Mongarlowe (different spelling ) near Braidwood too.

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Re: Patrick BARRETT brickwall
« Reply #20 on: Friday 13 July 18 09:44 BST (UK) »
An obit for the Patrick who may be the father of your Patrick - died May1918
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/116773540
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/119234243

And here an anomaly - the Monaro Pioneers site gives Patrick senior's wif as Ellen COMANS but thi newspaper report gives the name of the wife as nee RYAN.  The death date is the same  ??? ??? ???
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/103675624

NSW BMD index gives her parents' forenames as James and Katherine.

Time for me to stop tonight - will have another hunt tomorrow.

Judith

I have Mary Green as Patrick's possible Mother. Only one source though.
I will look into the Monaro site tomorrow.
Thank you for your help.
Have a good night.

Kind regards
Tom

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Re: Patrick BARRETT brickwall
« Reply #21 on: Friday 13 July 18 12:58 BST (UK) »
I am confident that's Molonglo  :)  I will look up my 19th Century NSW electoral rolls tomorrow.  Here's a reason to be confident about Molonglo ...

Molonglo River, (flows through)
Several Parishes,
County of Murray
Land District of Queanbeyan
Pastures Protection District of Braidwood
Local Govt Authority of Eurabodella Shire

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=678243.0

and
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/230389552 Gaz 2 Jan 1833

https://trove.nla.gov.au/


Grevilles 1872 directory: http://www.family.joint.net.au/index.php?mid=1&cid=338  (notice nearby localities)

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« Reply #22 on: Friday 13 July 18 13:07 BST (UK) »
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« Reply #23 on: Friday 13 July 18 13:20 BST (UK) »
:)

https://trove.nla.gov.au/work/14005216?q&versionId=16558763

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I thought I was posting on this thread... well at least it is here now.   ::)
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Re: Patrick BARRETT brickwall
« Reply #24 on: Friday 13 July 18 13:26 BST (UK) »
And here an anomaly - the Monaro Pioneers site gives Patrick senior's wif as Ellen COMANS but thi newspaper report gives the name of the wife as nee RYAN.  The death date is the same  ??? ??? ???
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/103675624
Judith

She wasn't a RYAN.  She arrived aged 3 with her family in 1838.  Here is the transcribed information from entitlement certificate:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-DT49-47P

James and Catherine had another daughter after arrival named Catherine Mary and it was her who married a RYAN.  She was the mother of vocalist "Marie Narelle", real name Catherine Mary RYAN.

At some stage someone got mixed up and thought that Ellen and "Marie Narelle" were sisters but they were actually aunt and niece.

Obit for Ellen's brother William COMANS:

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/112294601

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« Reply #25 on: Saturday 14 July 18 01:38 BST (UK) »
NSW Electoral Roll 1870 BRAIDWOOD
The following are ALL those listed with the surname as BARRETT,
Denis, (of) Araluen, residence, Bald Hills
Denis, Charles Forest, freehold, Charles Forest
Denis, Charles Forest, freehold, Charles Forest (so three entries, likely three chaps named Denis BARRETT, and two of them are shown as of Charles Forest as freeholders located at Charles Forest)
James, Araluen, residence, Bald Hills
John, Reidsdale, freehold, Reidsdale
John, junior, Reidsdale, residence, Reidsdale
Michael, Reidsdale, freehold, Reidsdale
Patrick, Monkittee, leasehold, Monkittee
Patrick, Reidsdale, freehold, Reidsdale
Thomas, Reidsdale, freehold, Reidsdale
Thomas, junior, Reidsdale, residence, Reidsdale
William, Reidsdale, residence, Reidsdale


NSW Electoral Roll 1878 BRAIDWOOD
BARRETT:
John, Braidwood, freehold, Braidwood
Patrick, Reidsdale, residence, Reidsdale
Denis, Araluen, household, Crown Flat
Denis, Charles’s Forest, freehold, Charles’s Forest
John, Reidsdale, freehold, Reidsdale
John, junior, Reidsdale, residence, Reidsdale
Michael, Reidsdale, freehold, Reidsdale
Patrick, Monkittee, leasehold, Monkittee
Patrick, Reidsdale, freehold, Reidsdale
Thomas, Reidsdale, freehold, Reidsdale
Thomas, Reidsdale, residence, Reidsdale
Michael, Reidsdale, residence, Reidsdale
Patrick, Boro, residence, Boro

GREVILLES 1875 PO DIRECTORY

Boro … County of Argyle
Andrew BARRETT, farmer

Molonglo  … County of Murray

Braidwood … county of St Vincent
Patrick BARRETT, contractor

Reidsdale, County of St Vincent
John BARRETT, farmer
Michael BARRETT, farmer
Patrick BARRETT, farmer
Thomas BARRETT, farmer

https://www.records.nsw.gov.au/archives/collections-and-research/guides-and-indexes/county-parish-maps-guide  Good info in this guide.

Land and Property Info now in private hands.
http://www.nswlrs.com.au/land_titles/historical_records_online/where_to_look

Historic Parish Maps
http://www.nswlrs.com.au/land_titles/historical_records_online/historical_maps_cancelled_editions and
http://hlrv.nswlrs.com.au/pixel.htm  … use keyword of County or Town to start.

JM  edit re typo ans now reads and

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Re: Patrick BARRETT brickwall
« Reply #26 on: Saturday 14 July 18 02:05 BST (UK) »
Re BARRETT and Reidsdale…

NSW State Archives online INDEX has a Mr  BARRETT, Reidsdale/Reedsdale, Parish of St Vincent, District of Braidwood as an entry at pg 71 on Reel 2222 for the 1841 NSW Census.  I understand that Ancestry has uploaded the 1841 Census images.


I wonder if I may speculate … Is it possible that the Society of Australian Genealogists (SAG, HQ in Sydney NSW) can help ….  I see there’s a possible file there for a Patrick BARRETT per the ship Margaret, and born circa 1821 who died 1918 at Reidsdale NSW …
http://www.sag.org.au/ 

https://www.records.nsw.gov.au/search_form?id=49  Search just by “Margaret” as the vessel name…

https://www.records.nsw.gov.au/archives/collections-and-research/guides-and-indexes/immigration-and-shipping/indexes

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https://www.records.nsw.gov.au/series/1291  includes following note
A card index to free passengers, masters and other persons listed in the Reports of vessels arrived, July 1826-1853, has been prepared by State Archives and is available in the Western Sydney reading room (microfilm copy SR Reels 1358-1372).

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