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Re: Patrick BARRETT brickwall
« Reply #9 on: Friday 13 July 18 07:19 BST (UK) »
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http://stbedesb.nsw.edu.au/parish/  Perhaps if you make initial enquiry via email, asking how you go about learning of the location of that parish register for 1886, and attaching pdf of the m.c. showing the blanks, perhaps ... well a response should at least give location of the register.  These registers are usually findable.

ADD ... they do have a nominal charge ... scroll down...

JM

Thanks very much JM I will look into that.
It would be good if the marriage record from the parish contains the parents names.

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Re: Patrick BARRETT brickwall
« Reply #10 on: Friday 13 July 18 07:25 BST (UK) »

What children do you have for Patrick BARRETT and Elizabeth GRIGGS?

What occupation for Patrick BARRETT?

What date and place of death do you have for Elizabeth BARRETT nee GRIGGS?

I have William John 1888, Annie Maria 1891 and Patrick 1894. All born at Braidwood.

For Elizabeth I found her death notice on trove. She died 19 Dec 1938 6 Lighthouse st north Sydney.
She is buried at Macquarie park with her son William John.
In the obit it lists another child Susie whom I didn't know about. I found no birth record for Susie to Patrick and Elizabeth yet.
 
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Re: Patrick BARRETT brickwall
« Reply #11 on: Friday 13 July 18 07:40 BST (UK) »


SMH 12 Dec 1938 p12
BARRETT.- December 19, 1938, at her residence, 6 Lighthouse Street, North Sydney, Elizabeth,
beloved mother of William, Patrick, Annie, and Susie.  Aged 79 years. R.I.P.

SMH 14 Aug 1920 p12
TWOMEY (nee May Le Sur) - August 6, at Bega, Mitchell Street, St. Leonards - a daughter.

BDM NSW marriage
4874/1919 TWOMEY  Timothy J   m.  LESUR  May  @ St Leonards

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Re: Patrick BARRETT brickwall
« Reply #12 on: Friday 13 July 18 07:44 BST (UK) »


SMH 12 Dec 1938 p12
BARRETT.- December 19, 1938, at her residence, 6 Lighthouse Street, North Sydney, Elizabeth,
beloved mother of William, Patrick, Annie, and Susie.  Aged 79 years. R.I.P.

SMH 14 Aug 1920 p12
TWOMEY (nee May Le Sur) - August 6, at Bega, Mitchell Street, St. Leonards - a daughter.

BDM NSW marriage
4874/1919 TWOMEY  Timothy J   m.  LESUR  May  @ St Leonards

Yes the top one is Elizabeth. I don't recognised the bottom 2 names. 


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Re: Patrick BARRETT brickwall
« Reply #13 on: Friday 13 July 18 08:13 BST (UK) »
Monaro Pioneers site has some information re Patrick BARRETT who married Elizabeth GRIGGS. this site is usually reliable but you would need to check for yourself.  I think you may have to register to view it but it's free.

http://www.monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I228268&tree=MP

Patrick BARRETT, b 1864
Parents: Patrick BARRETT,   b. 1821, County Limerick,  d. 18 May 1918, Reidsdale, NSW  (Age 97 years)
Ellen COMANS,   b. 1835, Balintemple,  d. 1 Jun 1909, Braidwood, NSW   (Age 74 years)
the date of this couple's marriage (your Patrick's parents) is:
11 Sep 1853    Catholic Church, Araluen, NSW,
Ref: NSW BDM Index, V1853510 99/1853

Elizabeth GRIGGS,    10 Jun 1862, reg Braidwood, NSW BDM, 6022/1863
Her parents:
James GRIGGS b. Abt 1801, Surrey, England,d. 4 Jan 1884, Braidwood,
Harriett VIDLER,   b. 24 Oct 1830, Sandhurst, Kent, d. 19 Jan 1914, Braidwood, New South Wales
Married:   9 Apr 1851, reg Narellan, NSW BDM Index, V1851372 37B/1851

The children listed for Patrick and Elizabeth are the three you mention earlier -
 William John,   b. 1888, Braidwood,  d. 10 Sep 1955, North Sydney,
Annie Margaret,   b. 1891, Braidwood,
Patrick b 1894, Braidwood
    
It is useful to remember, unless the actual place of birth is specified, the place referred to in indexes is usually the place of registration, which in country areas may be some distance from the birthplace.

Monaro Pioneers lists siblings and parents for your Patrick and for Elizabeth.

Also the arrival of Ellen COMANS per ship Calcutta, aged 3, her parents.

Judith
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Re: Patrick BARRETT brickwall
« Reply #14 on: Friday 13 July 18 08:32 BST (UK) »

NSW BDM marriage
12578/1917 BARRETT Susan   m.  SINGLETON  Michael B     @ St Leonards

Electoral Roll 1930   at   12 Lighthouse St North Sydney
SINGLETON Susie                        home duties
SINGLETON Michael Bryant           barman

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Re: Patrick BARRETT brickwall
« Reply #15 on: Friday 13 July 18 08:52 BST (UK) »
Monaro Pioneers site has some information re Patrick BARRETT who married Elizabeth GRIGGS. this site is usually reliable but you would need to check for yourself.  I think you may have to register to view it but it's free.

http://www.monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I228268&tree=MP

Patrick BARRETT, b 1864
Parents: Patrick BARRETT,   b. 1821, County Limerick,  d. 18 May 1918, Reidsdale, NSW  (Age 97 years)
Ellen COMANS,   b. 1835, Balintemple,  d. 1 Jun 1909, Braidwood, NSW   (Age 74 years)
the date of this couple's marriage (your Patrick's parents) is:
11 Sep 1853    Catholic Church, Araluen, NSW,
Ref: NSW BDM Index, V1853510 99/1853

Elizabeth GRIGGS,    10 Jun 1862, reg Braidwood, NSW BDM, 6022/1863
Her parents:
James GRIGGS b. Abt 1801, Surrey, England,d. 4 Jan 1884, Braidwood,
Harriett VIDLER,   b. 24 Oct 1830, Sandhurst, Kent, d. 19 Jan 1914, Braidwood, New South Wales
Married:   9 Apr 1851, reg Narellan, NSW BDM Index, V1851372 37B/1851

The children listed for Patrick and Elizabeth are the three you mention earlier -
 William John,   b. 1888, Braidwood,  d. 10 Sep 1955, North Sydney,
Annie Margaret,   b. 1891, Braidwood,
Patrick b 1894, Braidwood
    
It is useful to remember, unless the actual place of birth is specified, the place referred to in indexes is usually the place of registration, which in country areas may be some distance from the birthplace.

Monaro Pioneers lists siblings and parents for your Patrick and for Elizabeth.

Also the arrival of Ellen COMANS per ship Calcutta, aged 3, her parents.

Judith

Thank you very much Judith there is some good information there and I will  check it out.
The information for Elizabeth is correct.  I have different parents for Patrick but only the one source.
Every thing else looks ok though
Thanks for the tip on birth area.
Kind Regards
Tom

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Re: Patrick BARRETT brickwall
« Reply #16 on: Friday 13 July 18 08:58 BST (UK) »

NSW BDM marriage
12578/1917 BARRETT Susan   m.  SINGLETON  Michael B     @ St Leonards

Electoral Roll 1930   at   12 Lighthouse St North Sydney
SINGLETON Susie                        home duties
SINGLETON Michael Bryant           barman

Thank you very much.
A relative of mine mentioned a long time ago there were Singleton's in the family.
12 Lighthouse st is couple up from Elizabeth Barrett.
I can't find Susie or Susan Barrett's birth record yet to Patrick or Elizabeth but it looks like she was their daughter.
Kind regards
Tom

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Re: Patrick BARRETT brickwall
« Reply #17 on: Friday 13 July 18 09:15 BST (UK) »
Just a small hint which may -or may not - be useful.  Patrick's daughter's BC shows his birthplace as Molonglo - there is a Monga about 10k from Reidsdale.  Perhaps this is what was meant? Just a thought!

Judith

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