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Collier family - Salford Manchester - James Collier b. 1797
« on: Saturday 14 July 18 07:01 BST (UK) »
Hi,
I am having great difficulty in establishing the correct wife of James Collier b. 1797, who died at 16 Byrtle Square, Salford aged 47 years in 1844.   He was a Fustian Cutter.  I also have death certificate for his wife Ann who died in 1849 aged 49 years, Widow of James Collier, Fustian Cutter.

For some years, I and other Ancestry Tree recorders have believed that James Collier married Ann Pritchard, but having done more research on Ancestry, I have found two marriages.  The one to an Ann Pritchard in 1818 and another one in 1822 to Ann Parr.    In the second marriage to Ann Parr, he has children born from 1822 onwards, Mary Ann b. 1822, Sarah b. 1824, John b. 1826, Ann b. 1828, Thomas b. 1831, James b. 1834, William b. 1836, Margaret b. 1838 and David b. 1840.

In the first marriage, I have found no children born from 1818 onwards, which now tends to confirm to me that his marriage was to Ann Parr, rather than Ann Pritchard.   

What brought this to my attention was a DNA match to a 3rd cousin, and the only person that comes up is a "Pritchard".

I do have a copy of marriage certificate of James & Ann's son, John Collier b. 1826 (my family line) to Jane Jackson, where he is shown aged 23 years, married 1849, his father James Collier, Fustian Shearer, so I do feel that we have the right persons in my tree.

I wondered if maybe I had gone off the track, with so many Colliers in Manchester, such a common name.

Wondering if there is someone really kind out there, that may wish to check on records to confirm that I now have the right wife of James Collier please.     

My best wishes and thank you in advance, I have had so much success with your site, and appreciate all help that has been given to me in the past.

Regards Jan
New, Thorn, Bird, Ruffey, Bosley, Belcher- Newbury Berkshire
Haynes/Haines - Much Birch Herefordshire, Monmouth Wales
Kearn/Watkins- Llanllwchaiarn/Newtown, Wales, Tyberton, Herefordshire
Gwilliam - Monmouth Wales, Herefordshire
Collier, Jackson - Salford, Manchester Lancashire
Saunders - Middlesex, Devon
Benson - Edinburgh, Scotland
Callander - Falkirk, Scotland
Ambrose - Liverpool, Manchester Lancashire, Canada
Timms, Elliman - Oxfordshire, Warwickshire
Ellison - Manchester/Portsmouth Hampshir

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Re: Collier family - Salford Manchester - James Collier b. 1797
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 14 July 18 07:41 BST (UK) »
Bishop's Transcripts for the Cathedral Manchester
Married by banns 3 February 1822
James Collier of Manchester, fustian cutter, bachelor
Ann Parr of Manchester spinster
Witness William Warburton, & (Robert Hitton frequent signer possibly parish clerk)
Number 200 in register.

He has the right employment.

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Re: Collier family - Salford Manchester - James Collier b. 1797
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 14 July 18 08:12 BST (UK) »
The 2 youngest children  Margaret and David are on the new GRO bmd index
Margaret Collier registered Manchester 1838 D Quarter Vol 20 page 578 mothers maiden name PARR
David registered Manchester 1840, S quarter vol.20 page 618  mmn PARR

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Re: Collier family - Salford Manchester - James Collier b. 1797
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 14 July 18 08:14 BST (UK) »
GRO site  confirms mmn of David Collier b. 1840 as Parr.

Just beaten to it I see.

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Re: Collier family - Salford Manchester - James Collier b. 1797
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 14 July 18 08:24 BST (UK) »
Hi and thank you so much for all of this.   Now confirms the correct wife.   Lots of trees on Ancestry with Ann Pritchard as the wife.

Regards
Jan
New, Thorn, Bird, Ruffey, Bosley, Belcher- Newbury Berkshire
Haynes/Haines - Much Birch Herefordshire, Monmouth Wales
Kearn/Watkins- Llanllwchaiarn/Newtown, Wales, Tyberton, Herefordshire
Gwilliam - Monmouth Wales, Herefordshire
Collier, Jackson - Salford, Manchester Lancashire
Saunders - Middlesex, Devon
Benson - Edinburgh, Scotland
Callander - Falkirk, Scotland
Ambrose - Liverpool, Manchester Lancashire, Canada
Timms, Elliman - Oxfordshire, Warwickshire
Ellison - Manchester/Portsmouth Hampshir

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Re: Collier family - Salford Manchester - James Collier b. 1797
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 15 July 18 08:32 BST (UK) »
Just looking at all of this now, I am wondering if anyone could assist me with regard to James Collier and his wife Ann Parr, in finding their birth records.   I note that there was a company W. Collier & Co. in Greengate, Salford, with regard to Fustian Shearers, thought maybe that was the family company.

Regards
Jan
New, Thorn, Bird, Ruffey, Bosley, Belcher- Newbury Berkshire
Haynes/Haines - Much Birch Herefordshire, Monmouth Wales
Kearn/Watkins- Llanllwchaiarn/Newtown, Wales, Tyberton, Herefordshire
Gwilliam - Monmouth Wales, Herefordshire
Collier, Jackson - Salford, Manchester Lancashire
Saunders - Middlesex, Devon
Benson - Edinburgh, Scotland
Callander - Falkirk, Scotland
Ambrose - Liverpool, Manchester Lancashire, Canada
Timms, Elliman - Oxfordshire, Warwickshire
Ellison - Manchester/Portsmouth Hampshir

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Re: Collier family - Salford Manchester - James Collier b. 1797
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 24 September 19 01:47 BST (UK) »
Hi again, wonder if anyone could help me please with Parish Records again, in regard to finding Ann Parr's parents.   

Regards
Jan


Bishop's Transcripts for the Cathedral Manchester
Married by banns 3 February 1822
James Collier of Manchester, fustian cutter, bachelor
Ann Parr of Manchester spinster
Witness William Warburton, & (Robert Hitton frequent signer possibly parish clerk)
Number 200 in register.

He has the right employment.
New, Thorn, Bird, Ruffey, Bosley, Belcher- Newbury Berkshire
Haynes/Haines - Much Birch Herefordshire, Monmouth Wales
Kearn/Watkins- Llanllwchaiarn/Newtown, Wales, Tyberton, Herefordshire
Gwilliam - Monmouth Wales, Herefordshire
Collier, Jackson - Salford, Manchester Lancashire
Saunders - Middlesex, Devon
Benson - Edinburgh, Scotland
Callander - Falkirk, Scotland
Ambrose - Liverpool, Manchester Lancashire, Canada
Timms, Elliman - Oxfordshire, Warwickshire
Ellison - Manchester/Portsmouth Hampshir

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Re: Collier family - Salford Manchester - James Collier b. 1797
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 25 September 19 14:33 BST (UK) »
Ann Pritchards husband was a hatter and lived in Uxbridge Rd Salford

according to a baptism record
Chapel St Independent Salford
William Collier
born 24th September 1831
baptised 30 th October
child of James Collier a hatter and Anne formerly Pritchard
abode 17 Uxbridge St Salford
in a couple of other baptisms for these parents he is a porter but the street address is the same
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Re: Collier family - Salford Manchester - James Collier b. 1797
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 25 September 19 21:43 BST (UK) »
Radcliff,
Thanks for searching for me, but sorry this is the wrong person, needed Ann Parr who married James Collier, the Fustian Cutter.    I am looking for the parents of Ann Parr and also any other of her siblings.   
Regards
Jan
New, Thorn, Bird, Ruffey, Bosley, Belcher- Newbury Berkshire
Haynes/Haines - Much Birch Herefordshire, Monmouth Wales
Kearn/Watkins- Llanllwchaiarn/Newtown, Wales, Tyberton, Herefordshire
Gwilliam - Monmouth Wales, Herefordshire
Collier, Jackson - Salford, Manchester Lancashire
Saunders - Middlesex, Devon
Benson - Edinburgh, Scotland
Callander - Falkirk, Scotland
Ambrose - Liverpool, Manchester Lancashire, Canada
Timms, Elliman - Oxfordshire, Warwickshire
Ellison - Manchester/Portsmouth Hampshir