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Re: Finding my Gp help plz for a newbie
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 15 July 18 13:52 BST (UK) »
1881 we have;
William Yates, 40, Pork Butcher
Catherine Yates, 32
Mary Ellen Yates, 13
GEORGE Yates, 9
John Yates, 3
Catherine BARLOW, 59, Mother in Law, Widow, Hawker, born Kilkenny County, Ireland
William Barlow, 24, Brother in Law, French Polisher, born Manchester

Looks like Catherines Mother has remarried and then been Widowed again.
Although I am having trouble finding them in earlier Census under Barlow.
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Re: Finding my Gp help plz for a newbie
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 15 July 18 13:56 BST (UK) »
I am sat here in awe
Trying to take in all this amazing information , after years of thinking who and how can I find my gp and past .
Just awesome

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Re: Finding my Gp help plz for a newbie
« Reply #20 on: Sunday 15 July 18 14:02 BST (UK) »
You can freely look at the later Census here:  ;)
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XW1F-G4F

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Re: Finding my Gp help plz for a newbie
« Reply #21 on: Sunday 15 July 18 14:10 BST (UK) »
1881 we have;
William Yates, 40, Pork Butcher
Catherine Yates, 32
Mary Ellen Yates, 13
GEORGE Yates, 9
John Yates, 3
Catherine BARLOW, 59, Mother in Law, Widow, Hawker, born Kilkenny County, Ireland
William Barlow, 24, Brother in Law, French Polisher, born Manchester

Looks like Catherines Mother has remarried and then been Widowed again.
Although I am having trouble finding them in earlier Census under Barlow.

So Catherine was a mcdonnell/Donald and my ggp  ? and her mother was Catherine Barlow and Williams mother in law but she had married before .
So is Catherine Barlow my gggp ?
And if so who was her husband ..my gggp  ?
Sounds cheeky asking this but trying to collate all your amazing information


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Re: Finding my Gp help plz for a newbie
« Reply #22 on: Sunday 15 July 18 14:13 BST (UK) »
1861 Census
Bryan Barlow, 40, Head, Mar, Brick ? Labourer
Catherine Barlow, 40, Wife, Mar, Hawker, born Ireland
William Barlow, 5, Son
CATHERINE McDonald, 12, Stepdaughter*

Marriage Reg 1852 Bryan BARLOW/Catherine McDONNELL on same page

1871 Census
Catherine Barlow, 47, Widow, Hawker, born Ireland
William Barlow, 15, Son, French Polisher, born Manchester
+ 3 Lodgers
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Re: Finding my Gp help plz for a newbie
« Reply #23 on: Sunday 15 July 18 14:16 BST (UK) »
1861 Census explains it best.
Catherine D is widowed and married Bryan Barlow 1852
They have 1 Son William Barlow, your Catherines half brother.
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Re: Finding my Gp help plz for a newbie
« Reply #24 on: Sunday 15 July 18 14:25 BST (UK) »
Do you know when your grandfather died and where?   There is a death registration in Walsall - 1977 - which gives a birth date of 16 October 1901.  :-\

That one is married to a Gertrude E Yates in 1939 so I don't think thats him

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Re: Finding my Gp help plz for a newbie
« Reply #25 on: Sunday 15 July 18 14:35 BST (UK) »
1851 they may be in Holbeck, Yorkshire;
William McDonald, 30, Head, Mar, Smith Striker*, born London, Middlesex
Catherine McDonald, 28, Wife, Mar, born UK, Scotland
CATHERINE McDonald, 4, Daug, born Manchester, Lancashire

Catherine Snrs pob is out but Occp for William matches Cath Jnrs M/C

This may be Caths Birth Reg GRO;
MCDONALD, CATHERINE, Mothers mn    COYLE***
GRO Reference: 1846  S Quarter in MANCHESTER  Volume 20  Page 777

Baptism;
Name: Catherine McDonald
Birth Date: 22 Jul 1846
Baptism Date:   4 Oct 1846
Parish: Manchester, St Mary, St Denys and St George
Parents WILLIAM/CATHERINE
Father a Smith

Trouble is I cant find a Birth Reg GRO for William Barlow with Mothers mn as Coyle!
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Re: Finding my Gp help plz for a newbie
« Reply #26 on: Sunday 15 July 18 14:36 BST (UK) »
Enough for tonight, look at it all, make a Family Tree and we will help more later :)
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