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Re: Finding my Gp help plz for a newbie
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 15 July 18 13:03 BST (UK) »
Awesome @ ambley and bumbleb
Looks like iam you have made a newbies day and got me off on the right track 👌👍
How would I go about searching the ggp ? And shoukd I sign up to anything or can I stay here ?
Many many thanks

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Re: Finding my Gp help plz for a newbie
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 15 July 18 13:17 BST (UK) »
You can stay here, and we'll try and help further.  :)  I do have to admit that I'm having trouble finding the Yates families in the censuses, at the moment. 
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Re: Finding my Gp help plz for a newbie
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 15 July 18 13:20 BST (UK) »
You can stay here, and we'll try and help further.  :)  I do have to admit that I'm having trouble finding the Yates families in the censuses, at the moment. 
Thank you  :) your help made feel can go further now

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Re: Finding my Gp help plz for a newbie
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 15 July 18 13:24 BST (UK) »
Found them 1871, Having trouble later also.

1871 Census
Manchester
William Yates, 26, Head, Mar, Pork Butcher
Cathrine Yates, 24, Wife, Mar
Mary Ellen Yates, 4, Daug
GEORGE E Yates, Son, 10 Months*****
All born Manchester*

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Re: Finding my Gp help plz for a newbie
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 15 July 18 13:26 BST (UK) »
Some things add up with this 1901 census:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X92S-K45

From:
https://www.familysearch.org/search/hr/search

It's free but you do have to register.

Also free (register again :))
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/indexes_search.asp

From GRO Births:
YATES, JANE  VICTORIA     mmn CARDEN 
 1897  S Quarter in MANCHESTER  Volume 08D  Page 301

Haven't delved into the family as yet!

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Re: Finding my Gp help plz for a newbie
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 15 July 18 13:39 BST (UK) »
Mary Ellen Yates GRO Birth Reg has Mothers mn as MCDONELL 
George Edward Yates has Mothers mn as McDONALD

Marriage;
3 Sep 1866
Manchester, St Mary, St Denys and St George
WILLIAM Yates, 21, Bacheor, Fish Curer, Father GEORGE Yates a Weaver
CATHERINE Mc Donnell, 18, Spinster, Father WILLIAM McDonnell a Striker?
Living at 64 and 66 Bennett St
Both made their mark
(that is the couldn't sign)
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Re: Finding my Gp help plz for a newbie
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 15 July 18 13:44 BST (UK) »
You are all amazing
I thought I would never be able to find out my family  after my dad but you have been fantastic .
Do the name spellings often differ  ? and is there a way I shoukd check or cross ref to eliminate people .
I wish I had found your site years ago

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Re: Finding my Gp help plz for a newbie
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 15 July 18 13:44 BST (UK) »
1901 Census:

George E Yates   30   Marr.   Furriers Labourer      b.Manchester
Elizabeth Dockerty wid. 43   mother in law (?)          ditto
Mary J. Dockerty   22 sister in law                           ditto
William Dockerty 14   brother in law                        ditto
John T. Dockerty  12      ditto                                  ditto
Jane Yates 4   daughter                                           ditto

Don't know where wife Mary Emma was, nor can I figure out how Elizabeth Dockerty was mother in law when his wife's maiden name was Carden.

Daughter Jane was reg'd as Jane Victoria Yates, mmn Carden, in Sept.qtr.1897 Manchester which fits with birth entry found already for George Edward in 1902.

Things are complicated on the next census re. Christian names - suggest you look for a William and Emma Yates - unfortunately we are not allowed to post all the details from 1911 census due to copyright.   

At least one other daughter Agnes Winifred Yates, mmn Carden, birth reg'd Jun.1910.

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Re: Finding my Gp help plz for a newbie
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 15 July 18 13:51 BST (UK) »
 ;D ;D

Right.

Found this marriage:
FreeBMD

Marriages Sep Qtr 1888   
   
Carden    Elizabeth        Manchester    8d   224    
DOCKERTY    William        Manchester    8d   224    

Marriage image on Ancestry says both are widowed. Her maiden name seems to have been ?? DUNKLEY ?? Can't really read it.

Maureen