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Williams Thomas & his wife Mary 1800 Berrington
« on: Monday 16 July 18 03:30 BST (UK) »
Hi
Any information on Thomas and his family and his wife Mary.  Am particularly interested in what they did.
Bronwen Christchurch, NZ


1810 Williams
Thomas williams husband of Mary
b.1800?
m. Mary
d.
Census
1841 Thomas 40 Ag. Lab., Mary 40, John 10, Hannah 8, Elizabeth 5, Anne 4 months, Cantlop, Berrington, Shropshire, Eng.  (all born in Shropshire)
1851 Living with parents in a house named Windy Monday reg district Atcham, Ann 10 scholar, Eliz 8 scholar, Hannah 17 no occupation listed, John 20, farm labourer reg district Atcham
1861 Upper Cottage, Pitchford, Shropshire, Eng. Ann living with her parents, listed as Agr. Labourer’s unmarried daughter

Mary ? wife of Thomas Williams, mother of Ann Williams
b.1799?
m. Thomas Williams
d.
Children 7
1831 John Williams
1833 Hannah Williams 1851 census 18 a servant for Mary Wildig and family in Pride Street
1836 Jan 3 Williams – male, Berrington, Shropshire, Eng.
1837 Thomas Williams,
1840 Eliz Williams
1841 Feb 21 Anne Williams, Berrington, Shropshire, Eng,  (have information going forward)
1842 July 17 Elizabeth Williams, Berrington, Shropshire, Eng.
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Re: Williams Thomas & his wife Mary 1800 Berrington
« Reply #1 on: Monday 16 July 18 05:53 BST (UK) »
Something to ponder...

GRO Birth Reg:
WILLIAMS, ANNE    mmn =   RUBBERTHAN  Q1 1841 ATCHAM 18, 10
WILLIAMS, ELIZA    mmn = RUBBERTHAN Q3 1842 ATCHAM 18, 8

Not found a marriage yet, though Mary could have been a widow...

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Re: Williams Thomas & his wife Mary 1800 Berrington
« Reply #2 on: Monday 16 July 18 06:33 BST (UK) »
Thanks Geoff

Is this in fact showing that Rubberthan was one of the parents?   I have a separate post on this site asking for information about the Rubbathans from 1725?

Any ideas forward gratfully received

best wishes Bronwen, NZ
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Re: Williams Thomas & his wife Mary 1800 Berrington
« Reply #3 on: Monday 16 July 18 06:47 BST (UK) »
Hi Bronwen

It looks like it [one of the parents].

Haven't seen the other post yet...

Trying to get Mary's maiden name seemed to make sense by using the girl's birth reg., then hopefully the marriage details.

Have checked other sites and the Shropshire Marriage Index, no luck yet.

Geoff
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Re: Williams Thomas & his wife Mary 1800 Berrington
« Reply #4 on: Monday 16 July 18 06:55 BST (UK) »
Noticing the variant name I've rechecked the Shropshire Marriage Index and there is a marriage for an Edward Rubbathan 1836, I'll put it on your other post as it may get confusing.

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Re: Williams Thomas & his wife Mary 1800 Berrington
« Reply #5 on: Monday 16 July 18 07:18 BST (UK) »
You may need to rethink your strategy for your 2 threads, there appears to be common ground between the two of them.

Geoff
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Re: Williams Thomas & his wife Mary 1800 Berrington
« Reply #6 on: Monday 16 July 18 07:47 BST (UK) »
Many thanks to you both.

I do have a copy of the registration (photocopy of the actual original register) of Anne Williams Feb 21 1841 daughter of Thomas and Mary Williams in Cantlop - see attached.

Thanks Bronwen
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Re: Williams Thomas & his wife Mary 1800 Berrington
« Reply #7 on: Monday 16 July 18 07:55 BST (UK) »
Noticing the variant name I've rechecked the Shropshire Marriage Index and there is a marriage for an Edward Rubbathan 1836, I'll put it on your other post as it may get confusing.

I'm not sure how Edward fits in with your family if at all, his marriage is now on your other thread.

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Re: Williams Thomas & his wife Mary 1800 Berrington
« Reply #8 on: Monday 16 July 18 08:12 BST (UK) »
Oh dear when I saw the Rubbathan post I thought that is odd - anyway some how or other I have led you and me up the garden path - I had them on my spreadsheet twice.  Here they are - altho I am not sure how these ones fit in:
1831 John Williams
1836 Jan 3 Williams – male, Berrington, Shropshire, Eng.
1837 Thomas Williams,
1840 Eliz Williams

Apologies and thanks


Mary Rubbathen wife of Thomas Williams, mother of Ann
b.1798, June 3 baptism date Acton Burnell, Shropshire, Eng.
m.1821, June 14, Condover Shropshire, Eng. (reg.)
d.1869 April 4, Pitchford, Shropshire, Eng. (reg.)
Children 8
1826 Oct 22 Thomas Williams, Pitchford, Shropshire, Eng.(Ag labourer) m.Mary, Owestry c: 1854-1935,Samuel (m. Charlotte L Harvey c 1856 to 1936, 1 son George T Williams 1877-1955), 1856 Edwin, 1860 Allice
1829 Feb 15 Edward Williams, Pitchford, Shropshire, Eng.
1830 John Williams, Berrington, Shropshire, Eng.
1831 John Williams
1833-1909 Hannah Williams, Berrington, Shropshire, Eng. m.James R(h)oden, b 1829, Shropshire, d.1912 Wolverhampton.  1851 census 18 a servant for Mary Wildig and family in Pride Street Hannah on 1901 census, 1911 census James is a Widower.
1836 Jan 3 Williams – male, Berrington, Shropshire, Eng.
1836 William Williams, Berrington, Shropshire, Eng.
1836 Elizabeth Williams, Berrington, Shropshire. Eng. (reg.) 1851 census house servant to the Deakin family in Berrington
1837 Thomas Williams,
1840 Eliz Williams
1841 Feb 21 Ann Williams, Cantlop, Shropshire, Eng. (reg.)
1842 Elizabeth Williams, Berrington, Shropshire, Eng. (reg.)
Campbell, McKenzie, Ross, MacKay, Munro, Sutherland all of Ross & Comarty
Barry, Gibson, Watson, Summers, Edmonstone, Brock, McCartney all of Glasgow and environs
Erskine, Fletcher of Edinburgh