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Re: Duffy Family - Help needed to move onwards.
« Reply #18 on: Monday 16 July 18 18:02 BST (UK) »
You say John Duffy was born Lloughlyn  (I can't find a Lloughlyn so maybe Loughglinn)

There is this birth reg (possible brother for John Duffy):

24th May 1866 Moyne Loughglinn Charles son of Edward Duffy Land Holder of Moyne and Catherine (nee Jordan) 

can be viewed here:

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1866/03525/2296962.pdf

I like this. As I have said John's father was Edward (re marriage certificate to Mary). Searching a little while ago, I was 80% certain John's mother (Edwards wife) was Catherine - I can't remember why - it may have said Catherine on the most likely Baptismal record image.

This information could well be a brother and therefore gives me a Catherine with a maiden name of Jordan. I will be looking at this closely as it may allow me to unlock other siblings for John.

I really do appreciate this :)


Loughglinn Ireland : Duffy (Paternal Line)
London: Baylis(s), Maynard, Dutton, Smith, Ward, Garner, Down
Brighton: Galliers, Hilton
Devon (Moretonhampstead): Dingle, Smale
Essex (North): Garrad, Hull, Bishop, Partridge, Pepper
Manchester: Duffy, Hawthorn(e), Holyoak(e)
Shropshire Wellington: Vaughan, Foreman
Suffolk: Partridge, Minter
Wales (Monmouthshire): Powell, Mayber(r)y

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Re: Duffy Family - Help needed to move onwards.
« Reply #19 on: Monday 16 July 18 18:07 BST (UK) »
Away sorting out DNA matches... I may be gone for some time many years!

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Re: Duffy Family - Help needed to move onwards.
« Reply #20 on: Monday 16 July 18 18:37 BST (UK) »
Possible death for Edward Duffy

14th May 1903 Edward Duffy of Moyne widower aged 82 Small Farmer


https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1903/05659/4593216.pdf

Possible death for Catherine Duffy:

25th dec 1891 Catherine Duffy of Moyne married aged 65 Farmers Wife

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1897/05870/4664233.pdf

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Re: Duffy Family - Help needed to move onwards.
« Reply #21 on: Monday 16 July 18 18:50 BST (UK) »
Moyne townland in Loughglinn E.D.-
https://www.townlands.ie/roscommon/frenchpark/tibohine/loughglinn/moyne/


Not come across 'Moyne' in the little I had at the start - (information taken from 2 x census). It fits with Loughglinn and the census place of birth 'completed as heard ' OR Johns idea on spelling.

Thank you as this pieces well with what Candrjm is finding and highlighting
Loughglinn Ireland : Duffy (Paternal Line)
London: Baylis(s), Maynard, Dutton, Smith, Ward, Garner, Down
Brighton: Galliers, Hilton
Devon (Moretonhampstead): Dingle, Smale
Essex (North): Garrad, Hull, Bishop, Partridge, Pepper
Manchester: Duffy, Hawthorn(e), Holyoak(e)
Shropshire Wellington: Vaughan, Foreman
Suffolk: Partridge, Minter
Wales (Monmouthshire): Powell, Mayber(r)y


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Re: Duffy Family - Help needed to move onwards.
« Reply #22 on: Monday 16 July 18 18:59 BST (UK) »
Possible death for Edward Duffy

14th May 1903 Edward Duffy of Moyne widower aged 82 Small Farmer


https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1903/05659/4593216.pdf

Possible death for Catherine Duffy:

25th dec 1891 Catherine Duffy of Moyne married aged 65 Farmers Wife

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1897/05870/4664233.pdf

I never thought / but hoped that Duffy branch could be taken forward. I have no access to Irish Ancestry so this information is invaluable.

I estimated (by using Johns DoB) and dad/mum early 20's that Edward was 1834 but the information provided on death could mean he was born 1821 and Catherine (Jordan) 1826. With many children and first child shortly after marriage traits, this means John is not their oldest and probably a fair way down the Edward and Catherine list of offspring. Any siblings of John would greatly interest me as would - of course - and indication of Edwards father and line (being my father's direct ancestors).

This is moving - thank you
Loughglinn Ireland : Duffy (Paternal Line)
London: Baylis(s), Maynard, Dutton, Smith, Ward, Garner, Down
Brighton: Galliers, Hilton
Devon (Moretonhampstead): Dingle, Smale
Essex (North): Garrad, Hull, Bishop, Partridge, Pepper
Manchester: Duffy, Hawthorn(e), Holyoak(e)
Shropshire Wellington: Vaughan, Foreman
Suffolk: Partridge, Minter
Wales (Monmouthshire): Powell, Mayber(r)y

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Re: Duffy Family - Help needed to move onwards.
« Reply #23 on: Monday 16 July 18 19:17 BST (UK) »
Possible death for Edward Duffy

14th May 1903 Edward Duffy of Moyne widower aged 82 Small Farmer


https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1903/05659/4593216.pdf

Possible death for Catherine Duffy:

25th dec 1891 Catherine Duffy of Moyne married aged 65 Farmers Wife

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1897/05870/4664233.pdf

I never thought / but hoped that Duffy branch could be taken forward. I have no access to Irish Ancestry so this information is invaluable.

I estimated (by using Johns DoB) and dad/mum early 20's that Edward was 1834 but the information provided on death could mean he was born 1821 and Catherine (Jordan) 1826. With many children and first child shortly after marriage traits, this means John is not their oldest and probably a fair way down the Edward and Catherine list of offspring. Any siblings of John would greatly interest me as would - of course - and indication of Edwards father and line (being my father's direct ancestors).

This is moving - thank you


Added upon viewing the Death Certificate

Informant is a Mary Mc ...? cited as daughter present at death.


And on Catherines Death Cert

Informant is an Edward Duffy (son) present at death.

Not Edward husband so wonder where he was as Catherine died first - but again, usual form for a childs eldest son to take the name of father so an Edward (son) would fit with Edward and Catherine I believe (?)
Loughglinn Ireland : Duffy (Paternal Line)
London: Baylis(s), Maynard, Dutton, Smith, Ward, Garner, Down
Brighton: Galliers, Hilton
Devon (Moretonhampstead): Dingle, Smale
Essex (North): Garrad, Hull, Bishop, Partridge, Pepper
Manchester: Duffy, Hawthorn(e), Holyoak(e)
Shropshire Wellington: Vaughan, Foreman
Suffolk: Partridge, Minter
Wales (Monmouthshire): Powell, Mayber(r)y

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Re: Duffy Family - Help needed to move onwards.
« Reply #25 on: Tuesday 17 July 18 09:03 BST (UK) »
1901 census:

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Roscommon/Loughglynn/Moyne/1662795/


Thank you.

Initial reactions is to wonder why the Household just has Edward (Widow) and Mary Daughter in Law, (Married) in it.? No husband or Mary Children ? Perhaps she was just visiting her husbands elderly father at the time, which could seem plausible.

Link will be useful as I gain information on Edward & Catherine's children and a possible marriage linking a Mary to a Son. :) Valuable info.
Loughglinn Ireland : Duffy (Paternal Line)
London: Baylis(s), Maynard, Dutton, Smith, Ward, Garner, Down
Brighton: Galliers, Hilton
Devon (Moretonhampstead): Dingle, Smale
Essex (North): Garrad, Hull, Bishop, Partridge, Pepper
Manchester: Duffy, Hawthorn(e), Holyoak(e)
Shropshire Wellington: Vaughan, Foreman
Suffolk: Partridge, Minter
Wales (Monmouthshire): Powell, Mayber(r)y

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Re: Duffy Family - Help needed to move onwards.
« Reply #26 on: Tuesday 17 July 18 09:09 BST (UK) »
Gaining some great potential information from this thread :)

I still feel the need to confirm Edward with Catherine by linking them to John and the John records I have.

A look at Family Search last night suggests many duplicate entries for an Edward Duffy and Catherine (various spellings) - wife. I will try to trawl the individual duplicated records today ( i have located 12 at the moment) and would suggest these are all FS added baptism records for an Edward and Catherine.

Now if one of those was John and the other sibling dates fitted we may have a family to work on.

If anyone can find John in an Irish Census with siblings and parents Edward that would be a find ! :)

Looking at John & Mary's Wedding Certificate again - his father Edward's profession is Farmer which fits to all the information suggested on this thread - I remain excitedly positive :)
Loughglinn Ireland : Duffy (Paternal Line)
London: Baylis(s), Maynard, Dutton, Smith, Ward, Garner, Down
Brighton: Galliers, Hilton
Devon (Moretonhampstead): Dingle, Smale
Essex (North): Garrad, Hull, Bishop, Partridge, Pepper
Manchester: Duffy, Hawthorn(e), Holyoak(e)
Shropshire Wellington: Vaughan, Foreman
Suffolk: Partridge, Minter
Wales (Monmouthshire): Powell, Mayber(r)y