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Scotsman moving to Ireland in 1800s
« on: Tuesday 17 July 18 00:19 BST (UK) »
I have found a relative who supposedly was born in  City of Edinburgh on May 4, 1798.  How accurate can this information be ?  Are there records for that time period  ?

This person appears on the 1850 census for Saratoga Co NY, but states that he and his family were all born in Ireland.  Is it possible that he came to Ireland to board a ship to the US, from Newry, perhaps ??  There's a George listed as arriving on a ship called "Brothers", occupation is listed as Smith (Blacksmith ) ?  Arrived in NY May 31 1849.


 Its also possible that he bought land in Ireland and left from there, on a ship called Brothers?

Any information regarding Scottish or Irish census for 1800s would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: Scotsman moving to Ireland in 1800s
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 17 July 18 09:49 BST (UK) »
Possibly caught up in the Great Famine of the 1840's?

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Re: Scotsman moving to Ireland in 1800s
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 17 July 18 10:44 BST (UK) »
Scotlandspeople is where you will find Scottish records https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk and will be looking for a baptism record.

There has never been nor is there now any travel records between the two islands of Britain and Ireland

Many British traveled from Ireland to the USA and claimed to be Irish to get free assisted passage especially at that time, however someone of the same name is not any proof it was the person, LOTS of people have the same name, back then and now.

The first 'useful census' ( for FH purposes) in the UK is 1841, the surviving Irish census is 1901/1911, there is remnants of some earlier but none in Co Down for 1841, 1831 or 1821 you will need to look at other records ( which there are very few) https://www.irishgenealogy.ie
Leicestershire:Chamberlain, Dakin, Wilkinson, Moss, Cook, Welland, Dobson, Roper,Palfreman, Squires, Hames, Goddard, Topliss, Twells,Bacon.
Northamps:Sykes, Harris, Rice,Knowles.
Rutland:Clements, Dalby, Osbourne, Durance, Smith,Christian, Royce, Richardson,Oakham, Dewey,Newbold,Cox,Chamberlaine,Brow, Cooper, Bloodworth,Clarke
Durham/Yorks:Woodend, Watson,Parker, Dowser
Suffolk/Norfolk:Groom, Coleman, Kemp, Barnard, Alden,Blomfield,Smith,Howes,Knight,Kett,Fryston
Lincolnshire:Clements, Woodend

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Re: Scotsman moving to Ireland in 1800s
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 17 July 18 11:06 BST (UK) »
He may been in the Military. It wasn't uncommon for a soldier posted to Ireland to marry a local girl & have children there. They may have emigrated after discharge, so Scotland is the place to look as suggested.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
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Re: Scotsman moving to Ireland in 1800s
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 18 July 18 15:57 BST (UK) »
Thanks to all for your prompt responses. 
Based on your responses, my guess is that George and his family traveled to Newry and claimed to be Irish to avail of the cheaper passage.  With 12 children, I would have done the same. :D