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Help with wording of 1643 baptism please
« on: Tuesday 17 July 18 16:28 BST (UK) »
Please, what are the words that follow "baptized"?   Is the last one "Liberty" and what might it mean?

Many thanks for all help and suggestions.

Diana
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Re: Help with wording of 1643 baptism please
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 17 July 18 17:18 BST (UK) »
... Baptized fro(m) Tow(er) Liberty

The Liberty of the Tower of London was outside county jurisdiction and was governed separately from the City. See here ...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberties_of_the_Tower_of_London

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Re: Help with wording of 1643 baptism please
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 17 July 18 17:26 BST (UK) »
Hi Bookbox

Thank you for the transcript and also the link.   I'm confused as to why it was added.   Did it mean they weren't living in the parish?

Diana
Hakes - Piddington, Northants; Bucks
Hillyard, Lebatt & Bodsworth - Piddington, Northants
Bonner - Warwickshire & Leicestershire
Caughlin - Clonmore Co. Wicklow/Carlow
Muzzell - Sussex
Jones - Rushbury, Shropshire; Nuneaton & Birmingham, Warwickshire; Piddington & Northampton, Northants
Penhorwood - Devon
Shutt - Devon & Kent
Oliver, Davies & James - Pembrokeshire
Green, Enser, Oldham, Bramman, Billings & Watmough - Nottinghamshire

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Re: Help with wording of 1643 baptism please
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 17 July 18 17:37 BST (UK) »
It means they were living within the boundaries of the ‘Liberty’, which is a civil designation, not connected to a particular parish.

The local church would probably be Holy Trinity, Minories – is that the register you’re looking at?

There is also the chapel of St Peter ad Vincula, within the Tower itself, but those registers aren’t deposited.

ADDED - some useful background here
https://londonparishclerks.smugmug.com/Parishes-Churches/Individual-Parish-Info/Holy-Trinity-Minories


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Re: Help with wording of 1643 baptism please
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 18 July 18 00:14 BST (UK) »
Hi Bookbox

Thank you so much for the extra information.   The church register is from St. Olave, Hart Street.   I have found it through the latest link you sent.   I'm really very grateful indeed.

Kind regards,

Diana
Hakes - Piddington, Northants; Bucks
Hillyard, Lebatt & Bodsworth - Piddington, Northants
Bonner - Warwickshire & Leicestershire
Caughlin - Clonmore Co. Wicklow/Carlow
Muzzell - Sussex
Jones - Rushbury, Shropshire; Nuneaton & Birmingham, Warwickshire; Piddington & Northampton, Northants
Penhorwood - Devon
Shutt - Devon & Kent
Oliver, Davies & James - Pembrokeshire
Green, Enser, Oldham, Bramman, Billings & Watmough - Nottinghamshire