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Re: Franks and Lipman lookups
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 17 July 18 22:05 BST (UK) »
Thanks Milliepede! And thanks Groom for that street.
Dead-end ancestors:

William Cartwright, d. 1910, Wigston
Lewis Lipman, b. ca. 1798 (son of John Lipman, late of Glasgow)
Simon McGrigor/McGregor/MacGregor, b. ca. 1789, m. 1811, Fodderty, d. 1859, Fodderty (parents Alexander MacGregor and Mary Grant)
William Sands, b. ca. 1816, m. 1837, Clerkenwell, d. 1863, St. Luke's
Jesse Thorogood, b. ca. 1751, m. 1777, Shalford, d. 1826, Shalford

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Re: Franks and Lipman lookups
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 17 July 18 22:05 BST (UK) »
So where's Lewis in 1881 if he died in 1883?
Dead-end ancestors:

William Cartwright, d. 1910, Wigston
Lewis Lipman, b. ca. 1798 (son of John Lipman, late of Glasgow)
Simon McGrigor/McGregor/MacGregor, b. ca. 1789, m. 1811, Fodderty, d. 1859, Fodderty (parents Alexander MacGregor and Mary Grant)
William Sands, b. ca. 1816, m. 1837, Clerkenwell, d. 1863, St. Luke's
Jesse Thorogood, b. ca. 1751, m. 1777, Shalford, d. 1826, Shalford

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Re: Franks and Lipman lookups
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 17 July 18 22:05 BST (UK) »
They're all listed as b Spitalfields, but Julia is from Aldgate on previous censuses. Address 1a Essex St

Joseph Lipman    44 - cellerman, Forresters music hall
Julia Lipman    43
Sarah Lipman    18
Mary A Lipman    16
Barnett Lipman    12
Lewis Lipman    11
Moss Lipman    10
Esther Lipman    9
Rebecca Lipman    6
John Lipman    4
Jessie Lipman    2
Lewis Lipman    73 - father in law. Widower

RG10; 487; 47; 12

Louis Lipman
Q2 1871
Age    73
Bethnal Green Vol 1c, p153


LIPMAN, MARY         age 78      
Q3 1865 EAST LONDON  Volume 01C  Page 8



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Re: Franks and Lipman lookups
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 17 July 18 22:07 BST (UK) »
Mary Lipman Sep 1865 East London age 78 maybe her death.
Hinchliffe Huddersfield Wiltshire

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Re: Franks and Lipman lookups
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 17 July 18 22:09 BST (UK) »
Yes, I reckon so. It does seem likely. I'm gathering this information because I'm buying the marriage certificate of Morris Lipman and Rosetta Franks from 1844 (synagogue transcript was not much help) and these are all supposed to be their parents, with the exception of Benjamin Franks who died in 1831.
Dead-end ancestors:

William Cartwright, d. 1910, Wigston
Lewis Lipman, b. ca. 1798 (son of John Lipman, late of Glasgow)
Simon McGrigor/McGregor/MacGregor, b. ca. 1789, m. 1811, Fodderty, d. 1859, Fodderty (parents Alexander MacGregor and Mary Grant)
William Sands, b. ca. 1816, m. 1837, Clerkenwell, d. 1863, St. Luke's
Jesse Thorogood, b. ca. 1751, m. 1777, Shalford, d. 1826, Shalford

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Re: Franks and Lipman lookups
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 17 July 18 22:10 BST (UK) »
So where's Lewis in 1881 if he died in 1883?

The one who dies Hackney 1883 is in a Jewish institute in 1881 - b Royal Mint st, City (transcribed as Lewis). ALso there 1871 and unmarried

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Re: Franks and Lipman lookups
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 17 July 18 22:12 BST (UK) »
Yep, so that rules it out. Lewis Lipman died in 1871 and his wife in 1865. I'll add those to the list if confirmation is provided by Morris' marriage certificate.
Dead-end ancestors:

William Cartwright, d. 1910, Wigston
Lewis Lipman, b. ca. 1798 (son of John Lipman, late of Glasgow)
Simon McGrigor/McGregor/MacGregor, b. ca. 1789, m. 1811, Fodderty, d. 1859, Fodderty (parents Alexander MacGregor and Mary Grant)
William Sands, b. ca. 1816, m. 1837, Clerkenwell, d. 1863, St. Luke's
Jesse Thorogood, b. ca. 1751, m. 1777, Shalford, d. 1826, Shalford

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Re: Franks and Lipman lookups
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 17 July 18 22:13 BST (UK) »
Yes I had the wrong Lewis - your Louis death looks correct Mabel. 
Hinchliffe Huddersfield Wiltshire

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Re: Franks and Lipman lookups
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 17 July 18 22:18 BST (UK) »
Well thanks for all of the help! I've got a list of information on standby to incorporate depending on the marriage certificate.
Dead-end ancestors:

William Cartwright, d. 1910, Wigston
Lewis Lipman, b. ca. 1798 (son of John Lipman, late of Glasgow)
Simon McGrigor/McGregor/MacGregor, b. ca. 1789, m. 1811, Fodderty, d. 1859, Fodderty (parents Alexander MacGregor and Mary Grant)
William Sands, b. ca. 1816, m. 1837, Clerkenwell, d. 1863, St. Luke's
Jesse Thorogood, b. ca. 1751, m. 1777, Shalford, d. 1826, Shalford