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Offline isobelw

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Re: can anyone help please
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 18 July 18 18:09 BST (UK) »
I wonder if choosing April 1st as the date of marriage was intentional!
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Re: can anyone help please
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 18 July 18 19:37 BST (UK) »
On the birth record for George Sinclair as posted by Isobel reply 5 his mother
Elizabeth Sinclair is noted as dau of a seaman

If this is the same Elizabeth Hall/Margaret Sinclair as per 1901 census below
living Wick Caithness in 1861 her father George’s occ Ag Labourer

we have looked on ancestry that's where we got most of our info

Is this the info. you have found on Anc*Y?

1861 Parish: Wick; ED: 3; Page: 4
George Sinclair 32 Halkirk occ Ag Lab.
Margaret Sinclair 30 Orkney Wales
Jenn Sinclair 3 Dunnet
Elizabeth Sinclair 1 Wick

Jane Sinclair Birth 23 Nov 1857 Dunnet,Caithness,Scotland
Father:   George Sinclair Mother:   Margaret Gunn

Elizabeth Sinclair    Birth 15 Jan 1860 Wick, Caithness,Scotland
Father:   George Sinclair  Mother:   Margaret Gunn

1871 Parish: Wick; ED: 6; Page: 19
Geo Sinclair           45 Halkirk occ. Agent of Assasane Soer  :-\ need to check original census
Margaret Sinclair   39 Orkney
Jane Sinclair           13 Dunnet
Elizabeth Sinclair   11 Wick
Barbara Sinclair             6 Wick
Geo Sinclair           15 Latheron, Lodger

Barbara Sinclair Birth 23 Dec 1864 Wick, Caithness,Scotland
Father:   George Sinclair Mother:   Margaret Gunn

Can anyone spot the Sinclair's on 1881 census?

For others looking can I confirm this is the family on 1901 census

65 Maskell Street Manchester
Elizabeth Hall widow   41 Wick Caithness Scotland
Margaret Sinclair mother   67 Dunnett
Barbara Hall dau   16 Edinburgh
George S Hall son   15 Edinburgh
plus several boarders
RG13; Piece: 3695; Folio: 18; Page: 27

Can anyone spot the above family on 1891 census ?


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« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 18 July 18 19:55 BST (UK) »
1881 census The Sinclair Family George Margaret Elizabeth and Barbara are living on 30 Chalmers Street
St Cuthbert's Edinburgh with 3 lodgers and 1 visitor
This was from LDS Census on Scotland People

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« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 18 July 18 20:09 BST (UK) »
And in 1891 living as boarders in the house of James Richardson
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:49W6-CW2

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« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 18 July 18 20:14 BST (UK) »
1881 census The Sinclair Family George Margaret Elizabeth and Barbara are living on 30 Chalmers Street St Cuthbert's Edinburgh with 3 lodgers and 1 visitor
This is from the CD-ROM
30 Chalmers Street, Edinburgh St Cuthberts
George SINCLAIR   Head 54 Ironman Agent Halkirk, Caithness
Margaret SINCLAIR Wife 45 Longhope, Orkney
Elizabeth SINCLAIR Dau 21 Wick, Caithness
Barbara SINCLAIR    Dau 16 Wick, Caithness
John LESSELS Lodger 22 Law Student Edinburgh
Kenuth F (Constable) BROWN Lodger 25 Student Of Medicine Cheltingham, England
Thomas ARMSTRONG Visitor 21 Student Of Medicine Skirling, Peebles
George B BATTEN   Lodger 20 Student Of Medicine India
   
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« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 18 July 18 22:00 BST (UK) »
1881 census The Sinclair Family George Margaret Elizabeth and Barbara are living on 30 Chalmers Street St Cuthbert's Edinburgh with 3 lodgers and 1 visitor
This is from the CD-ROM
30 Chalmers Street, Edinburgh St Cuthberts
George SINCLAIR   Head 54 Ironman Agent Halkirk, Caithness
Margaret SINCLAIR Wife 45 Longhope, Orkney
Elizabeth SINCLAIR Dau 21 Wick, Caithness
Barbara SINCLAIR    Dau 16 Wick, Caithness
John LESSELS Lodger 22 Law Student Edinburgh
Kenuth F (Constable) BROWN Lodger 25 Student Of Medicine Cheltingham, England
Thomas ARMSTRONG Visitor 21 Student Of Medicine Skirling, Peebles
George B BATTEN   Lodger 20 Student Of Medicine India
   
And in 1891 living as boarders in the house of James Richardson
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:49W6-CW2

Thank you - I just couldn't spot them :)

1891 RG12; Piece: 2830; Folio: 19; Page: 10 - Village Rd
Margeret Sinclare   Widow Boarder   54   Scotland Restaurant Keeper
Elizabth Hall            ditto    Boarder   32   Scotland
Berhera Hall                     Boarder   6   Scotland
George Hall                     Boarder   5   Scotland


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Re: can anyone help please
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 18 July 18 22:10 BST (UK) »
thank you everyone for their replies.thank you Forfarin for the warning I have read the post, we were beginning to think George juniors parents didn't get married as we cannot find any record of the marriage, but his name was George Sinclair Hall so maybe the marriage took place later or he was just given his fathers nme. although his sister Barbara was born first and she was Barbara Hall.
yes George junior did die in Manchester and he did marry Alice Whaite and they had a son John.
we do not know  George seniors occupation for sure but think he could have been a collier and we do not know when he died. thanks again for all the replies.

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« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 18 July 18 22:15 BST (UK) »
thank you lady hawk and forfarin for the census results, I wrote down the wrong date for the marriage it was in November not april

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« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 18 July 18 22:57 BST (UK) »
The birthdate of George S Hall in the 1939 register ( with wife Alice F)  matches that on the 1970 death of George Sinclair Hall found by Ladyhawk and also the date on the 1886 Dalmeny birth certificate for George Sinclair.
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