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Pest House Oakridge Bisley
« on: Thursday 19 July 18 15:03 BST (UK) »
Hi All

Does anyone have information regarding a Pest House 1850 - 1860+ in Oakridge Lynch Bisley.  Whilst researching the line of Philip Gardiner b. 1824 Bisley I came across him in the 1871 census living with a number of children (no female adult) with the surname Phelps.   Further checks identified some of the children's baptisms giving the Mother as Hannah Phelps and no father named.  Her address was given as Pest House.  Philip is however named as father on some of the children's marriage certs.  My assumption is he is the father of the children and for some reason didn't or couldn't marry the mother but why is she residing in a Pest House.  At a guess could this be a workhouse might she be ill but still able to give birth to several children or could there be another reason  ???
Any help would be appreciated.   :)

Gardiner, Tyler, Tanner, Davis, Jeffries - Bisley/Chalford
Hawkins - Stroud
Hale - Brimscombe
Clayton, Rixon, Ovenden, Hayles - Middlesex
Scriven, Carpenter, Hayward, Ricketts, Greenaway - Wiltshire

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Re: Pest House Oakridge Bisley
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 19 July 18 15:09 BST (UK) »
Hi     


Last question first.     


" . . . were houses set up to provide shelter and isolation for those with the Ďpestilenceí "


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Re: Pest House Oakridge Bisley
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 19 July 18 15:13 BST (UK) »
Hi     

Hope this is the correct Bisley ( final para )     

http://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/glos/vol11/pp4-11     


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Re: Pest House Oakridge Bisley
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 19 July 18 15:16 BST (UK) »


1861 Census,


Pest House - Bisley

two families inc


GARDINER

Philip - Head - unmarried - aged 37, Stone Mason, all born Gloucester, Bisley

Emma E PHELPS - dau - 12
Sarah PHELPS - dau - 9 Scholar
Philip - son - 7
Mary Ann - dau - 6
Thomas - son - 4
Charlotte - - dau -2
Oliver - son - 10 months
Hannah PHELPS, Boarder - unmarried - 35 - Housekeeper - born Glos Bisley.

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Re: Pest House Oakridge Bisley
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 19 July 18 15:33 BST (UK) »
This tree is also on Ancestry

and on the 1851 census, Glos Bisley,  Hannah PHELPS, unmarried and living with her father Jacob, brother Samuel + some grandchildren


PHELPS

Jacob - Widower - 57 -
Samuel - son - 21
Hannah - daughter - 21 - unmarried
George grandson aged 9 
William grandson aged 5  **
Elizabeth grand-daughter aged 2


Emma Elizabeth PHELPS registered 1849 Bisley - GRO Index, mother's maiden name BLANK


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Bisley Baptism Register

5 January 1847, Allan William PHELPS, base son of Hannah PHELPS - residence: Tunley

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Re: Pest House Oakridge Bisley
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 19 July 18 15:47 BST (UK) »
Hi Ray & Capetown

Thank you both the information given was certainly interesting  ;D what with this and other information found a couple of weeks ago regarding criminal actions of thankfully  a distant relations actions towards a sheep, I'm really looking forward to finding the nice bits from which I have evolved  :o
Really I appreciate your assistance thank you  ;)
Gardiner, Tyler, Tanner, Davis, Jeffries - Bisley/Chalford
Hawkins - Stroud
Hale - Brimscombe
Clayton, Rixon, Ovenden, Hayles - Middlesex
Scriven, Carpenter, Hayward, Ricketts, Greenaway - Wiltshire

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Re: Pest House Oakridge Bisley
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 19 July 18 15:51 BST (UK) »

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baptism at Bisley, 21 January 1842

George Henry PHELPS, base son of Anne PHELPS, residence: Tunley


(there is a Anne PHELPS on the 1841 census at Bisley with her father Jacob) - but also a few lines down, an Anne PHELPS - aged 30 - with small children)

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Re: Pest House Oakridge Bisley
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 19 July 18 15:53 BST (UK) »
Hi
Yes, there was a big riot in 1896 reported in the papers of the time, " arrangements were made  for patient to be removed to Oakridge where two cottages known as the Pest House had been converted into a hospital"
The rioters were not happy with this and tried to burn the house down.
So I guess they could have been ordinary cottages earlier.
There was a George and Ernest Phelps amongst the rioters.

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Re: Pest House Oakridge Bisley
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 19 July 18 15:59 BST (UK) »
Hi cath151

Yes I had read about the riot previously but hadn't made any link via Phelps/Gardiner's at the time with relatives.  Interesting to know there were two involved and I look forward to rummaging around for more information. 

Many thanks  :)
Gardiner, Tyler, Tanner, Davis, Jeffries - Bisley/Chalford
Hawkins - Stroud
Hale - Brimscombe
Clayton, Rixon, Ovenden, Hayles - Middlesex
Scriven, Carpenter, Hayward, Ricketts, Greenaway - Wiltshire