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Re: William Collinson in 1911 - quick lookup please
« Reply #9 on: Friday 20 July 18 05:21 BST (UK) »
Already up to speed on the GRO, thanks Crisane.

I did a thorough search for births under surname Collinson + mmn Routledge, allowing for alternate spellings and am pretty sure that Jane Anne was the only child born (in the UK). Finding a comment on the 1911 form would have been final corroboration of that or evidence of an overseas birth.

I have a note from my research a few years ago that Hannah Collinson died about 1905.
Can we verify that she is indeed our William's Mrs?


-DC

Not without purchasing the death certificate and even then if she and William were living apart the informant may be someone unknown to you. If lucky it could be the daughter and she knew her father's name and Hannah was entered as his wife. I am pretty sure that they only had the one child also.

Death reg 1903 - 1907 Co Durham only one Hannah Collinson age 58,reg dist Lanchester Sept 1/4 1906 vol 10a page 221

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Re: William Collinson in 1911 - quick lookup please
« Reply #10 on: Friday 20 July 18 07:11 BST (UK) »
Death of Hannah Collinson at that age and in that location perfectly matches what we know about her from other sources.

What do you think happened to daughter Jane?

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Re: William Collinson in 1911 - quick lookup please
« Reply #11 on: Friday 20 July 18 08:04 BST (UK) »
I have Jane Anne Collinson marrying in 1893 in Lanchester and appearing in 1901 and 1911 as Mrs Alderslade. She has a number of children that seem to be inherited from her husband's previous marriage. She lives through to 1946.

William & Hannah appear in Lanchester in 1891 after all.
Daughter Jane is not with them... probably a servant girl somewhere.

Anyway, the absence of data has narrowed down to the 1881 census and no more.
I'm inclined to think there is no longer any mystery to this family and that this is simply an example of a census form that was not collected for one reason or another.

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Re: William Collinson in 1911 - quick lookup please
« Reply #12 on: Friday 20 July 18 10:10 BST (UK) »
This will be William and Hannah in 1881 census :

22 Hedley Hill, Hedleyhope, Lanchester.
William Collinson, 32, Coal Miner, b. Northumberland, Shotley Bridge.
Hannah Collinson, wife, 30, b. Durham, Larkhouse Cottages,
George Collinson, son, 13, B. Durham, Larkhouse Cottages.
RG11/4948/6/6

Alan.
Northumberland - Smith, Willis,
Durham - Rogerson, Child
Cumberland - Irving, Hill
North Yorkshire - Layfield,
Ireland - Collins


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Re: William Collinson in 1911 - quick lookup please
« Reply #13 on: Friday 20 July 18 13:34 BST (UK) »
Yes Yes, Wolfie, thanks.  I found that record myself only a few hours ago. I had missed it earlier because the ages were not accurate and made this William look like the other William, born 1849.

But I am perplexed by the presence of a son named George, born about three years before William and Hannah married. Furthermore there is no birth record for a boy named George Collinson in 1867-68 in this region. I am guessing that he has been brought into the marriage as an adoptee, or possibly  a son to Hannah from a romance that predates her marriage.


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Re: William Collinson in 1911 - quick lookup please
« Reply #14 on: Friday 20 July 18 17:44 BST (UK) »
George is with William and Hannah as a son in 1871 although his age is an unreadable squiggle.

There is a marriage of a John Collinson (father James Collinson) and Isabella Routledge (father Nichol Davison) at Hunwick, 28 May 1871. According to some Family trees on Ancestry these two are William and Hannahs brother and sister, and Jane Ann Collinson b. June qtr 1871 is down as their child. Would really need the birth cert to confirm which is which.

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Northumberland - Smith, Willis,
Durham - Rogerson, Child
Cumberland - Irving, Hill
North Yorkshire - Layfield,
Ireland - Collins

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Re: William Collinson in 1911 - quick lookup please
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 21 July 18 02:02 BST (UK) »
That is strange ...

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Re: William Collinson in 1911 - quick lookup please
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 21 July 18 03:37 BST (UK) »
I have Jane Anne Collinson marrying in 1893 in Lanchester and appearing in 1901 and 1911 as Mrs Alderslade. She has a number of children that seem to be inherited from her husband's previous marriage. She lives through to 1946.
-DC
1901
John George Alderslade age 7, Isabelle  age 3 and Edith age 1 have the mother's maiden name Collinson on the GRO index. registration dist Lanchester but there isn't a registration for Thomas age 6 on the GRO mmn Collinson only one for mmn Dobison. I wonder if someone misheard or mistranscibed. Any way it looks as if the children are Jane Anne's and her husband's.

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Re: William Collinson in 1911 - quick lookup please
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 21 July 18 03:55 BST (UK) »
I might be way off here but there is a birth for a George Routledge in Dec qtr 1866 registered in Penrith no mother's maiden name shown Possibly an illegitimate son