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Offline grimnar

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Gillanders family of Stornoway, Ullapool and Rosmarkie
« on: Tuesday 24 July 18 04:50 BST (UK) »
Hi all,
         I'm looking for any information or even locations to search for information concerning The above family. I'm mainly searching for George Gillanders parents and family and to confirm his wife (Christian Stewart) parentage and family. Scotlands people are turning up next to nothing regarding these two, so hoping some of the fantastic researchers could help or point me in the right direction.

To avoid going over old ground here is what I know.
George Gillanders born U/K in Ross and Cromarty. Death U/K He married Christian Stewart, supposed daughter of Alexander and Anne Stewart nee Urquhart.
George and Christian are both buried in Mill Street Old Burial Ground, Ullapool. On the headstone of Margaret and John MacKenzie, George has 'Feuar"(someone who has taken out a feu on land). He is also mentioned elsewhere as the 'Tacksman of Shadder'.
George and Christian had the following children:

Margaret Gillanders
1794(R&C)1859(Ullapool). Married John MacKenzie(1789-1824), in 1814 at Lochbroom, R&C.  John was a Merchant with links to the HEIC. No other info known on family.
Had one child as far as I know.
Annie(1820-1835)

Helen Gillanders
1801(Stornoway)1864(Conon Bridge). Married William MacGregor(1787-1870), in 1820 at Stornoway, R&C. They had 11 children:
Christian MacGregor (1822)
Ann McGregor (1824)
Roderick MacGregor (18261910)
Margaret MacGregor (1828)
Mary MacGregor (1831)
Alexander James Gillanders MacGregor (1834)
Margaret MacGregor (1836)
George MacGregor (1838 )
Helen MacGregor (18401910)
Williamina MacGregor (1841 )
William MacGregor (1845)

George Gillanders Esq(My line)
1805(Stornoway)1874(Rosemarkie). Married Sophia MacKid in 1829 at Rosemarkie, R&C. George was a merchant and then Inspector of the Poor. He and Sophie were both buried in the Rosemarkie Churchyard.
They had 9 Children:
Eliza MacKenzie Gillanders (18211873)
Sophia Forsyth Gillanders (1829U/K)
Christian Stewart Gillanders (18311832)
Catherine Gillanders (1833U/K)
Christian Ann Gillanders (18341903)
George Gillanders (1837U/K)
Eliza Gillanders (18391914)
Alexander Thomas Gillanders (18401891)
Robert Joseph Gillanders (18461912)


Mary Gillanders
1816 (R&C) U/K.  Interred with parents at the Mill Street Old Burial Ground, Ullapool.

The family story is, that the above George senior is related to the Gillanders of Highfield, but after tracing and recording those Gillanders, it could be a possibility, but cannot find the records to confirm or deny 110%.

Thank you for any assistance or direction in advance.

Regards,
Matt
Wilson-St Andrew, Fife
Brodie- Foveran, Aberdeen
Mounty- Maiden Bradley, Wiltshire

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Re: Gillanders family of Stornoway, Ullapool and Rosmarkie
« Reply #1 on: Monday 30 July 18 00:40 BST (UK) »
Here's a tip for your searches on SP if you haven't already tried it?

Using...
Surname gil*and*r*
Option (wildcards allowed) will bring up quite a few variants of the surname then pick R & C/anywhere else or all

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie, MacDonald, MacInnes, MacIntyre, MacKinnon, Steele, Walker

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, MacKinnon, MacPhee

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Re: Gillanders family of Stornoway, Ullapool and Rosmarkie
« Reply #2 on: Monday 30 July 18 07:51 BST (UK) »
Hi

Just to say that the parish records for Lochbroom don't start until the 1790s so it might be difficult to find baptism records further back than then.

See:

https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/Lochbroom,_Ross_and_Cromarty,_Scotland

It might be worth checking the various tax records on Scotlands Places:

https://scotlandsplaces.gov.uk/search/results?st=lochbroom

Also, the Wills section of Scotlands People, just in case.


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Re: Gillanders family of Stornoway, Ullapool and Rosmarkie
« Reply #3 on: Monday 30 July 18 07:55 BST (UK) »
Just looked up Shadders on Scotlands Places. It is in Barvas parish, Lewis

https://scotlandsplaces.gov.uk/digital-volumes/ordnance-survey-name-books/ross-and-cromarty-os-name-books-1848-1852/ross-and-cromarty-insular-volume-07/71


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Add - again Barvas OPRs don't start until 1810
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Re: Gillanders family of Stornoway, Ullapool and Rosmarkie
« Reply #4 on: Monday 30 July 18 10:47 BST (UK) »
Not sure if you have checked these?

An example...
4/9/1772
"Precept of poinding and arrestment at instance of George Gillanders against William MacIan, tenant in Upper Shadder [Shader], and others for payment of rent"

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01mfr/

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie, MacDonald, MacInnes, MacIntyre, MacKinnon, Steele, Walker

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, MacKinnon, MacPhee

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Re: Gillanders family of Stornoway, Ullapool and Rosmarkie
« Reply #5 on: Monday 30 July 18 22:48 BST (UK) »
A notorious Highland surname, see "The Cruel Gillanders!" Hopefully not a relation but a tacksman! hmmm.

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Re: Gillanders family of Stornoway, Ullapool and Rosmarkie
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 08 August 18 05:25 BST (UK) »
Thanks everyone for their comments and assistance. Apologies for the delay in my reply.

It seems that I am in a rather difficult situation regarding the lack of records available. 

The 'Shadder' Annie found and the Geo Gillanders is the Gillanders of Highfield and Factor of Lewis fame. This record was from 1772, which if my info is correct is a few years before the birth of my ancestor.

I believe I found the 'Shadder/Shadir' that my George was tacksman of. The NAS catalogue has an entry thus; "Bond of Caution by James Chapman, chamberlain of Lewis for George Gillanders, tacksman of Shadir in the Island of Lewis in Suspension against Murdoch Morrison, merchant in Stornoway." This Shadir is east of Stornoway on the peninsula. See map.

Another researcher looking into the Gillanders family thinks that the Gillanders family originated in either Aberdeen or Inverness, so will have to investigate these leads, but I'm not holding out much hope.

Skoosh, I believe the 'Cruel Gillanders' refers to MacKenzie Factor Alexander Gillanders, whom I believe is an ancestor. I suppose, as they say, you cannot choose your family.

Thanks again ladies and gents.
Wilson-St Andrew, Fife
Brodie- Foveran, Aberdeen
Mounty- Maiden Bradley, Wiltshire

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Re: Gillanders family of Stornoway, Ullapool and Rosmarkie
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 08 August 18 07:59 BST (UK) »
Grimnar, Black in his "Surnames of Scotland" has this as a personal name formerly, 12th cent. Gillanders of Arbuthnot in the 13th cent. The Clan Ross were known a Gillanders, from which is Anderson.

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