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Re: Florence & Arthur Curwood b Q3 1876 & 23 Jul 1877 St Pancras
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 25 July 18 13:13 BST (UK) »
No drawn a blank on the travel/migration records.
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Re: Florence & Arthur Curwood b Q3 1876 & 23 Jul 1877 St Pancras
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 25 July 18 13:24 BST (UK) »
It might be worth you asking for a lookup on the Australia and possibly N.Z boards for the Arthur who sailed to N.S.W in 1892 or have you done so already
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Re: Florence & Arthur Curwood b Q3 1876 & 23 Jul 1877 St Pancras
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 25 July 18 14:41 BST (UK) »
He was in the Royal Navy 1895-1896, discharged unfit at Portsmouth, so hardly think he could have been in NZ or Oz before then?
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Re: Florence & Arthur Curwood b Q3 1876 & 23 Jul 1877 St Pancras
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 06 September 18 22:11 BST (UK) »
Hi, My wife and I are researching the CURWOOD family name, mainly in the UK.

The details we have for Florence CURWOOD are :-
born - Sept qtr. 1876 GRO indexed as Florence
1881 census - RG11/213/117/19 - Florence Curwood - daughter
1891 census - RG12/90/8/11 - Florence Curwood - visitor
died Jun qtr. 1894 GRO indexed as Florence Mary Curwood

The details we have for Arthur CURWOOD are :-
born 23 Jun 1878, 5 Hadley Street, Kentish Town, Middlesex. (we have a copy of his birth certificate)
1881 census - RG11/213/117/19 - Arthur Curwood - son
1891 census - RG12/75/26/46 - Arthur Curwood - son
Travel - 19 Jun 1929 - From New York, United States  to Liverpool England (Ancestry)
died - unknown

If you would like any more information, we have a lot more on this CURWOOD line family tree with over 80 CURWOOD names listed.

Regards.
Les.
CURWOOD - mainly UK, Australia, New Zealand.


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Re: Florence & Arthur Curwood b Q3 1876 & 23 Jul 1877 St Pancras
« Reply #13 on: Friday 07 September 18 09:53 BST (UK) »
Hi Les09,
I'm aware of Florence's details but Arthur still remains a mystery. btw according to his RN record he was born 23 Jul 1877 not June.
As you say he returned from USA 19 Jun 1929 but to a residence in Worthing, Sussex aged 51; there is another record of this man going out to Canada 3 Feb 1929 from that same address aged 61 (presume age was recorded wrongly) and retired. So it would appear that he was visiting Canada for 3 months-have you any Curwoods' in Canada/USA he could've been visiting?
However I think this is not my Arthur because he is shown on the 1939 register at same address in Worthing dob 08 Nov 1867 as Arthur S Curwood a single retired glover? Maybe he is one of your other Curwoods'?
So my Arthur still is a mystery-maybe he emigrated totally or his surname has been badly recorded somewhere after his RN career ended in 1896?
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Re: Florence & Arthur Curwood b Q3 1876 & 23 Jul 1877 St Pancras
« Reply #14 on: Friday 07 September 18 10:40 BST (UK) »
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he seems to have been in Royal Navy at St. Vincent

HMS St Vincent was a training ship permanently moored at Haslar. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_St_Vincent_(1815)
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Re: Florence & Arthur Curwood b Q3 1876 & 23 Jul 1877 St Pancras
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 08 September 18 01:05 BST (UK) »
Hi Cr,
I have checked the copy of the birth certificate for Arthur and it does say June. The certificate is a hand-written copy, not a scanned image of the register entry, so it might have been mis-transcribed onto the certificate. So either June or July could be correct. Therefore, need to keep an open mind regarding his dob.

John Joseph CURWOOD was born in Jersey, Channel Islands, as were his 9 siblings and parents.
A young brother to John, George Alexander (1840-1932) emigrated to Montreal Canada in 1875 and died there.
An even younger brother to John, Henry William (1848-1908) had a son Thomas Charles (1883-abt 1973) emigrated circa 1903 to the U.S.A.  Passenger lists destination Hamilton (1903), Buffalo (1908), Pittsford New York (1914). 1930 census in Mendon New York.
So Arthur could have been visiting his uncle George on his Canadian trips, or his cousin Thomas on his U.S.A. trips.
The Arthur you mention on the 1939 register address in Worthing dob 08 Nov 1867 as Arthur S Curwood is Arthur Samuel CURWOOD, born Uffculme Devon, died 1943 Newport, Monmouthshire, residence in Richmond Surrey, eldest son of Samuel and Jane (nee KENT). A completely different line of Curwood's.

Now, you have raised an interesting situation.
The June 1929 passenger list for Arthur, stated age 51, gives the destination as 49 King Edward Avenue Worthing which is the same address as the Arthur Samuel on the 1939 Register. So, either the age is incorrect on the June 1929 passenger list, (should be 61 to match Arthur S.) or Arthur was going to stay with Arthur Samuel. You say "there is another record of this man going out to Canada 3 Feb 1929 from that same address aged 61 (presume age was recorded wrongly)".
On this evidence, I am going for :- the age on the Feb 1929 passenger list is correct; the age on the June 1929 list is incorrectly stated as 51 it should be 61 and is therefore not the Arthur the son of John Joseph; as I very much doubt there is a very close relationship between Arthur and Arthur Samuel.  There may be a distant relationship but it will mean joining our two Curwood trees several generations back.

Hopes this all makes sense.
Les.
CURWOOD - mainly UK, Australia, New Zealand.

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Re: Florence & Arthur Curwood b Q3 1876 & 23 Jul 1877 St Pancras
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 08 September 18 08:30 BST (UK) »
Yes Les, it makes sense to me in that my Arthur didn't go to and from Canada on those dates.

Have you seen my other post regarding him on the NZ board? There is a reply there saying that an Arthur had a daughter, Maud Curwood who married  Philip Edward Thomas 9/3/1926 in Perth, WA. Is she one of your Curwoods'?
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Re: Florence & Arthur Curwood b Q3 1876 & 23 Jul 1877 St Pancras
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 08 September 18 08:43 BST (UK) »
Here is the link to the topic on the New Zealand board....

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=800031.msg6574399#msg6574399


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