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Leviathon-Portmouth-Hampshire-England-1829
« on: Saturday 28 July 18 10:35 BST (UK) »
From the records from UK Prison Hulk Registers and Letter Books, 1802-1849
Nathaniel Salter, 19 years old, born about 1810,
Date Received 25 Nov 1829, Ship Leviathon, Place Moored, Portsmouth, Date Convicted 14 Jul 1829, Place convicted  Warminster.#9638. 2 separate felonies. Died 13 Jan 1832.

Also I suspect a brother ( both convicted on the same day- 14 July 1829)

William Salter,21 years, born abt 1808, Date Received 2 Oct 1829, Ship Leviathon, Place Moored Portsmouth, Place convicted Warminster.

Firstly where do I find further records on these two and where might Nathaniel have been buried?
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Re: Leviathon-Portmouth-Hampshire-England-1829
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 28 July 18 11:04 BST (UK) »
Devizes and Wiltshire Gazette 16 July 1829

William (21)  & Nathaniel (19) sentenced to 7 years transportation for stealing potatoes from Thomas Day at Kingston
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Re: Leviathon-Portmouth-Hampshire-England-1829
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 28 July 18 11:18 BST (UK) »
I think they may have come from Kington St Michael, nr Chippenham, Wilts. I will try for baptisms.
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Re: Leviathon-Portmouth-Hampshire-England-1829
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 29 July 18 00:05 BST (UK) »
Thank You for your replys.

Any chance these two boys may have come from the south with family from Isle of Wight at that time?
Wells-Eaglesfield,Dumfrieshire
Carlyle -Eaglesfield,Dumfrieshire
Underwood - Ruthwell,Dumfrieshire
Grierson - Ruthwell,Dumfrishire
O'Halloran- Limerick
Bryan (O'Brien)Limerick
Hawks/Hawkes - Staffordshire, England
Badgery - Staffordshire, England
Davis-  Cork- Ireland
Neville - Ireland
O'Toole - Limerick


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Re: Leviathon-Portmouth-Hampshire-England-1829
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 29 July 18 00:08 BST (UK) »
You also mention the area of Kington, where exactly might this be located please?
Wells-Eaglesfield,Dumfrieshire
Carlyle -Eaglesfield,Dumfrieshire
Underwood - Ruthwell,Dumfrieshire
Grierson - Ruthwell,Dumfrishire
O'Halloran- Limerick
Bryan (O'Brien)Limerick
Hawks/Hawkes - Staffordshire, England
Badgery - Staffordshire, England
Davis-  Cork- Ireland
Neville - Ireland
O'Toole - Limerick

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Re: Leviathon-Portmouth-Hampshire-England-1829
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 29 July 18 00:26 BST (UK) »
Further to this also a marriage appears at the location you mention Kington St.Michaels, Wiltshire between a William Salter, bachelor and an Elizabeth Salter, spinster. 23 June 1834

Question is William received a 7 year sentence in 1829 and the marriage is in 1834 ? Is this the same William.

And who is the Elizabeth Salter- A cousin?

A further tid bit is My GreatGreat Grandfather John Salter mentions his location in England before coming out to Australia as Wiltshire/Staffordshire.

Look forward to any thoughts on this one please
Wells-Eaglesfield,Dumfrieshire
Carlyle -Eaglesfield,Dumfrieshire
Underwood - Ruthwell,Dumfrieshire
Grierson - Ruthwell,Dumfrishire
O'Halloran- Limerick
Bryan (O'Brien)Limerick
Hawks/Hawkes - Staffordshire, England
Badgery - Staffordshire, England
Davis-  Cork- Ireland
Neville - Ireland
O'Toole - Limerick

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Re: Leviathon-Portmouth-Hampshire-England-1829
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 29 July 18 07:43 BST (UK) »
You also mention the area of Kington, where exactly might this be located please? 

Have you looked at online maps  :-\  I have just looked to see where it is myself.

There is a William (30)  Elizabeth (30) living with Richard (70) in Kington Langley (Chippenham) Wiltshire in 1841 also a George, Jane & Ann
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Re: Leviathon-Portmouth-Hampshire-England-1829
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 29 July 18 07:56 BST (UK) »

A further tid bit is My GreatGreat Grandfather John Salter mentions his location in England before coming out to Australia as Wiltshire/Staffordshire.


Wiltshire & Staffordshire are at opposite ends of the country.  Is the Staffordshire link on the court document - 'The High Sherriff of the county of Stafford'

Are you trying to link Nathaniel & William to your John  :-\
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Re: Leviathon-Portmouth-Hampshire-England-1829
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 29 July 18 08:02 BST (UK) »
You also mention the area of Kington, where exactly might this be located please? 

Have you looked at online maps  :-\  I have just looked to see where it is myself.

There is a William (30)  Elizabeth (30) living with Richard (70) in Kington Langley (Chippenham) Wiltshire in 1841 also a George, Jane & Ann

1851 has William age 43 born Reading, Berkshire and Elizabeth age 48 born Langley, Wiltshire.

If this is William brother of Nathaniel then these baptisms would match

William Salter
Baptism    20 Mar 1808
Beenham, Berkshire
parents Richard & Sarah

Nathaniel Salter
Baptism    10 Jun 1810
Beenham, Berkshire
parents Richard & Sarah

There is also a John baptised in Beenham to this couple in 1813
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