Author Topic: Robert Patterson in Louth Coastguard Station 1865  (Read 3935 times)

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Re: Robert Patterson in Louth Coastguard Station 1865
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 28 July 18 20:40 BST (UK) »
Oh this is wonderful, thank you both!

Working back from Robert Sr's death certificate - this sounds highly likely that this is the son. I had 1838 for his birth - but close enough and the names work with those given on the tombstones.

It's funny - now looking at my grandfather's siblings' name - they were an unimaginative bunch - it's the same names over and over - Robert, Harriet, Jane.

So now there are 4 siblings?
Robert James (1837), Harriet (1845) William (1850) and Susan Jane (1853)

Wonderful.

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Re: Robert Patterson in Louth Coastguard Station 1865
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 28 July 18 20:52 BST (UK) »

... So now there are 4 siblings?


If the right folk, then possibly 5, for Robert James Patterson's will is available to read below and he mentions a brother George, as well as sisters Harriett and Susan Jane 'McKinney' (no mention of William though, which is frustrating...):

Probate of the Will of Robert James Patterson late of Carlingford County Louth no Occupation who died 7 April 1900 granted at Armagh to The Reverend William J. M'Cully Presbyterian Clergyman.

https://apps.proni.gov.uk/WillsCalendar_IE/WillsSearch.aspx

Added: Harriett's will is there too for reading, mention of brother George, no mention of William, which is a slight worry.



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Re: Robert Patterson in Louth Coastguard Station 1865
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 28 July 18 20:56 BST (UK) »
Ah yes, another family name - that's my grandfather.

Wow - they really had NO imagination!

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Re: Robert Patterson in Louth Coastguard Station 1865
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 28 July 18 21:40 BST (UK) »
Yes that is slightly worrying - two of them not mentioning him.

Maybe they fell out with him.
OR
George is his middle name / nickname - but then you wouldn't put that in a will.

Hmmm


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Re: Robert Patterson in Louth Coastguard Station 1865
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 29 July 18 10:09 BST (UK) »
On the plus side, 48 year old Susan Jane (Patterson) McKenney's birthplace of Co. Kerry, so far away from her residence in Co. Louth in the 1901 census, is very positive, given the Kerry context for William's 1850 birth. Susan's reported age at death in 1909 was 62 (usual caveat about inaccuracy applies), for now it looks like a birth year in the region of the late 1840s - early 1850s.

It would just have been more conclusive to see a mention of William in the wills (a smoking gun if his full name of William Stewart had been used), however it may simply be the case that William was off the radar for the other siblings, perhaps he had made a life remotely from them for some time, after all, he was on the other side of the country on Achill Island in 1901.

In terms of the timeline for Robert Patterson, there is an indication that he was still in Castlegregory towards the end of 1857, a letter in the Cork Examiner of 14 October 1857 from Hugh Cooper, Chief Boatman at the Coast Guard Station at Castlegregory, mentions a Robert Patterson as 'one of the coast guard men' (Robert also gets an earlier mention in a list of Castlegregory Station men cited in the Tralee Chronicle of 19 January 1855). Since the 1864 newspaper article reporting his move to Dunany Point indicated that he was at Carlingford 'for many years', it would suggest that any move from Castlegregory to Carlingford came sooner than later after the 1857 newspaper reference for him.


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Re: Robert Patterson in Louth Coastguard Station 1865
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 29 July 18 10:38 BST (UK) »
I'm so grateful for all your help on this!

Do the newspapers that you are referring to have online archives?
And can you make any suggestions for papers in the Dundalk / Carlingford area to look for obituaries of Robert?
Coming over to Ireland in Sept so  may well take a trip up there as Ive never been that way before - I could take a look at the graves etc then.

Rosie

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Re: Robert Patterson in Louth Coastguard Station 1865
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 29 July 18 10:50 BST (UK) »
Oh this is wonderful, thank you both!

Working back from Robert Sr's death certificate - this sounds highly likely that this is the son. I had 1838 for his birth - but close enough and the names work with those given on the tombstones.

It's funny - now looking at my grandfather's siblings' name - they were an unimaginative bunch - it's the same names over and over - Robert, Harriet, Jane.

So now there are 4 siblings?
Robert James (1837), Harriet (1845) William (1850) and Susan Jane (1853)

Wonderful.


Harriet (1845) ... No!  Baptism of HARRIOT PATTERSON of DINGLE on 9 December 1843


Father   ROBERT PATTERSON
Mother   HARRIOT PATTERSON
 
Father Occupation   COAST GUARD


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Re: Robert Patterson in Louth Coastguard Station 1865
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 29 July 18 10:51 BST (UK) »
Name      SUSANNA JANE PATTERSON
Date of Birth   N/R N/R N/R
Address   DINGLE
Father   ROBERT PATTERSON
Mother   HARRIOT PATTERSON
 
Father Occupation   COAST GUARD


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Re: Robert Patterson in Louth Coastguard Station 1865
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 29 July 18 10:53 BST (UK) »
Oh this is wonderful, thank you both!

Working back from Robert Sr's death certificate - this sounds highly likely that this is the son. I had 1838 for his birth - but close enough and the names work with those given on the tombstones.

It's funny - now looking at my grandfather's siblings' name - they were an unimaginative bunch - it's the same names over and over - Robert, Harriet, Jane.

So now there are 4 siblings?
Robert James (1837), Harriet (1845) William (1850) and Susan Jane (1853)

Wonderful.

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Baptism of SUSANNA JANE PATTERSON of DINGLE on 10 September 1841
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