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Offline MrDudley

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Hubbard of Countesthorpe
« on: Saturday 28 July 18 18:18 BST (UK) »
Hello

I'm having trouble in finding a marriage for my 5th grt grandparents Thomas Hubbard and Mary and them and children on Census.


From What I can see these are all the Children =
Elizabeth Hubbard B. 1815
Catherine Hubbard B. 1816
Eliza Ann Hubbard B. 1820
Caroline Hubbard B. 1822 (My 4th grt grandmother)
Ellen/Helen Hubbard B. 1825 - D.1838
All are baptised in Countesthorpe.

Caroline lists her father as Thomas Hubbard FWK on her marriage in 1842 Leicester but I cannot see her in 1841.


The only marriage I can see is one between Thomas Hubbard Grocer of Market Harborough and Mary Coltman of Gilmorton by license 1817, This is a red herring as I have found this family on census and it seems to not be my Hubbards.


Thomas Hubbard is most likely the Thomas Hubbard bapt 1787 Countesthorpe son of John Hubbard and Elizabeth Jervis but with out a marriage I cant be too sure.

Dudley of Cosby & Odstone - Richard Dudley, Gent
Bent of Cosby - Thomas Bent Esq
Halford of Wistow - Sir Thomas Halford, 2nd Bnt
Cotton of Dadlington - Barnard Cotton Esq
Worsley of Deeping Gate - Richard Worsley Esq
Elkington of Shawell - Humfrey Elkington, Gent
Cotes of Aylestone - John Cotes, Gent
Swynfen of Sutton Cheney - Richard Swynfen, Gent
Barnard of Abington - Sir John Barnard
Shuckburgh of Naseby - Edward Shuckburgh Esq
Hobson of Great Glen - Thomas Hobson, Gent

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Re: Hubbard of Countesthorpe
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 28 July 18 21:30 BST (UK) »
Hi Fenb0y
Yes I can also see the 1817 marriage Thomas was 25yrs and Mary 22yrs old if that's any help?

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Re: Hubbard of Countesthorpe
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 28 July 18 21:39 BST (UK) »
Could this be one of the children?
Name    Elizabeth Hubbard
Event Type    Census
Event Date    1841
Event Place    Hinckley, Leicestershire, England
Residence Note    Hinckley Union Workhouse
Gender    Female
Age    15-19
Age (Original)    15
Institution    Hinckley Union Workhouse
Birth Year (Estimated)    1822-1826
Registration District    Hinckley
Parish    Hinckley
County    Leicestershire
Page Number    6
Registration Number    HO107
Piece/Folio    601/22
Affiliate Record Type    Institution
Leicestershire:Chamberlain, Dakin, Wilkinson, Moss, Cook, Welland, Dobson, Roper,Palfreman, Squires, Hames, Goddard, Topliss, Twells,Bacon.
Northamps:Sykes, Harris, Rice,Knowles.
Rutland:Clements, Dalby, Osbourne, Durance, Smith,Christian, Royce, Richardson,Oakham, Dewey,Newbold,Cox,Chamberlaine,Brow, Cooper, Bloodworth,Clarke
Durham/Yorks:Woodend, Watson,Parker, Dowser
Suffolk/Norfolk:Groom, Coleman, Kemp, Barnard, Alden,Blomfield,Smith,Howes,Knight,Kett,Fryston
Lincolnshire:Clements, Woodend

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Re: Hubbard of Countesthorpe
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 28 July 18 21:51 BST (UK) »
Could this be Caroline in 1841?

Name    Carole Hubbard
Event Type    Census
Event Date    1841
Event Place    St Margaret, Leicestershire, England
Residence Note    Metcalf Street
Gender    Female
Age    15-19
Age (Original)    15
Birth Year (Estimated)    1822-1826
Birthplace    Leicestershire
Registration District    Leicester
Parish    St Margaret
County    Leicestershire
Page Number    13 Registration Number    HO107 Piece/Folio    604/10

Eliza Marvin       F    30-34    Leicestershire could this be her sister
Heny Marvin       M    8    Leicestershire
Benjn Marvin       M    3    Leicestershire
Hanh Weston       F    60-64    Leicestershire
Carole Hubbard       F    15-19    Leicestershire
??? Springthorpe       F    15-19    Leicestershire

I know the Elizabeth and Eliza are wrong ages however I do have Elizabeth and Eliza in my ancestry who interchanged what they called themselves in records
Leicestershire:Chamberlain, Dakin, Wilkinson, Moss, Cook, Welland, Dobson, Roper,Palfreman, Squires, Hames, Goddard, Topliss, Twells,Bacon.
Northamps:Sykes, Harris, Rice,Knowles.
Rutland:Clements, Dalby, Osbourne, Durance, Smith,Christian, Royce, Richardson,Oakham, Dewey,Newbold,Cox,Chamberlaine,Brow, Cooper, Bloodworth,Clarke
Durham/Yorks:Woodend, Watson,Parker, Dowser
Suffolk/Norfolk:Groom, Coleman, Kemp, Barnard, Alden,Blomfield,Smith,Howes,Knight,Kett,Fryston
Lincolnshire:Clements, Woodend

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Re: Hubbard of Countesthorpe
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 29 July 18 15:28 BST (UK) »
The Thomas who married Mary Coltman Baptised a Son THOMAS 02 Jan 1822 Market Harborough.
His Occp a Grocer.
(other children on FreeREG for them also)

Your Caroline was Baptised same year so definitely not your Family as you say .

It may be a red herring but 1851 Census has a Mary Hubbard living Willoughby Waterless, a Widow, born c 1779 Parish Unknown, London.
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Re: Hubbard of Countesthorpe
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 29 July 18 17:48 BST (UK) »
I think that must definitely be Caroline.
I'm not sure if Elizabeth Marvin is her sister though. It seems on the 1851 census Elizabeth Marvin's birthdate changes to 1808 and birthplace as Leicester St Margaret's.


Interestingly there is a Thomas Hubbard aged 84 born 1787 Countesthorpe living in Countesthorpe 1871 with a 34yr old wife and a number of children from this marriage. He is also a Framework knitter same occupation as Caroline gives on her marriage in 1842. Could this be father Thomas and a new wife? GRO gives children's mothers maiden name as Burley.
I can see the banns for this marriage 1855 Countesthorpe but not a marriage record so I don't know wether Thomas is a widower or not but given his age compared to her I assume he is.

First Wife Mary's burial and the mother of Caroline?
Mary Hubbard buried 26 Apr 1846 Countesthorpe. aged 68 birthdate 1778.
Dudley of Cosby & Odstone - Richard Dudley, Gent
Bent of Cosby - Thomas Bent Esq
Halford of Wistow - Sir Thomas Halford, 2nd Bnt
Cotton of Dadlington - Barnard Cotton Esq
Worsley of Deeping Gate - Richard Worsley Esq
Elkington of Shawell - Humfrey Elkington, Gent
Cotes of Aylestone - John Cotes, Gent
Swynfen of Sutton Cheney - Richard Swynfen, Gent
Barnard of Abington - Sir John Barnard
Shuckburgh of Naseby - Edward Shuckburgh Esq
Hobson of Great Glen - Thomas Hobson, Gent