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Re: Decipher description from Scottish birth certificate
« Reply #9 on: Friday 03 August 18 08:49 BST (UK) »

Have you looked for Colin migrating in 1864 & have you found any potentials?

Do you know of any other family connections in other countries where he may have gone to?

Annie

No leads so far, his daughter moved to London some time after marrying,and a sister may have moved to USA, but no further clues there.
There seems to be so many people in Scotland who have the same few names that it difficult to know who is who, and tracking anyone without proper access to the Scottish censuses isn't easy.
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Re: Decipher description from Scottish birth certificate
« Reply #10 on: Friday 03 August 18 12:23 BST (UK) »
"I can't find births for Donald 1854 or Isabella 1856 (or any years either side)"

Have you discounted these?

MORRISON ISABELLA 1856
685/7 495 Heriot and Warriston (Edinburgh)

MORRISON JANE 1858
685/7 450 Heriot and Warriston


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South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

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Re: Decipher description from Scottish birth certificate
« Reply #11 on: Friday 03 August 18 12:44 BST (UK) »
"Isabella and the two children are on the 1861 census"

Can you supply details (ages) of all of the above please & where all were said to have been born?

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

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Re: Decipher description from Scottish birth certificate
« Reply #12 on: Friday 03 August 18 14:45 BST (UK) »
"Isabella and the two children are on the 1861 census"

Can you supply details (ages) of all of the above please & where all were said to have been born?

Annie
I think the births in Heriot and Warriston don't have the right parents.

On the 1861 and 1881 censuses, Isabella (daughter) was born in Glasgow, Lanark, on 1871 and 1891 censuses it says Edinburgh or Scotland.
I had checked Glasgow births but none had the right parents, however I've just spotted an 
Elizabeth Isabella Morrison born in 1856, in Anderston, Glasgow, parents Colin and Isabelle Morrison.  So one more step in the right direction.
Isabelle (mother) and Donald where both born in Edinburgh according to the 1861 and 1871 censuses.

On the 1861 census we have Isabella (mother) age 27, Donald age 7 and Isabella (daughter) age 5.
On the 1871 census we have Isabella (mother) age 36, Donald age 16, Isabella (daughter) age 14,

Over to Jane, I'm going out on a limb here, but:-
On the 1881 census she is Jane G Churchill, but there is a marriage later in 1881 for a Robert Brough and Jane Westwood, on the marriage record is says mother is Isabella Westwood MS Morrison (deceased), Isabella died April 1881, father Robert Westwood, Printer, Compositor.  Jane is age 18, which would put her birth to 1863, which would be why she isn't on the 1861 census, but doesn't explain why she is 14 in 1871.  Elsewhere in ancestry's records she is Jane Gibson Brough.  The name Westwood crops up in more recent generations as a middle name, and if I'm correct and sister Eleanor married Alexander Wylie then at least one of their children had Westwood as a middle name.
So lots to investigate there.

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Re: Decipher description from Scottish birth certificate
« Reply #13 on: Friday 03 August 18 15:08 BST (UK) »
If I have looked at the correct 1871 census (you have), it states Isabella (Snr) was born England?

Edit, I apologise as it was William Churchill who was born England  :-[

Which line do you descend from, of her children as there may be a possibility you have gone off the trail somewhere?

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

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Re: Decipher description from Scottish birth certificate
« Reply #14 on: Friday 03 August 18 15:45 BST (UK) »
When & where did Isabella (Snr) die?

Do you have her DC & what details are on it?

What details do you have for her on 1911 census, please include all?

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: Decipher description from Scottish birth certificate
« Reply #15 on: Friday 03 August 18 15:56 BST (UK) »
"He is on the 1841 Scotland Census as Colin Mcintosh, mother has remarried to an Archibald McIntosh"

Been a long thread & I'd forgot about this!

Depending on the circumstances of his disappearance, have you searched for him with surname McIntosh?

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: Decipher description from Scottish birth certificate
« Reply #16 on: Friday 03 August 18 16:11 BST (UK) »
When & where did Isabella (Snr) die?

Do you have her DC & what details are on it?

What details do you have for her on 1911 census, please include all?

Annie

Isabella (snr) died 24-4-1881 as Isabella Churchill "married to Colin Morrison(Baker) 2nd to William Churchill Wireworker" at New Royal Infirmary Edinburgh, witnessed by Donald Morrison (Son)."

This is my wife's side of the family, she is descended through Isabella (jnr) who married Thomas Goodley in 1874.  On her marriage certificate it states, father Colin Morrison Seaman! deceased mother Isabella Morrison MS Morrison, witnesses Donald Morrison and Jane Churchill.  Hadn't noticed Colin was a Seaman (had been a baker previously) being a seaman might explain his disappearance and death.

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Re: Decipher description from Scottish birth certificate
« Reply #17 on: Friday 03 August 18 16:54 BST (UK) »
This does make a difference, being a Seaman!

Strange change of occ. I have to say.

Do you have any other of the marriages prior to 1874 with Colin deceased?

Does the marriage of Isabella to William Churchill state she's a Widow?

There will be no DC for Colin to be found if he died at sea & his body wasn't found.

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"