Burton's in Caerphilly and Barry, then Cardiff. Need meat on bones :(

[osprey]

a couple of baptisms

Isabella Burton bp in Ellesmere, Shropshire 4 Feb 1872  dau of Charles, tinman, & Selina of Pentrecoed

Herbert Burton bp in Church Preen, Shropshire 16 June 1873 son of Charles, travelling tinman, & Selina, note born in Cardeston parish

Possible for Richard bp 4 Jan 1874 in Preston Gubbalds son of Henry, tinman, & Selina, address Merrington Field?

[Ladyhawk]

given the 1911 in Penallt, there was a burial 12 Dec 1909 in Mitchel Troy for Charles Burton 69 of Millbrook, Penallt.

Also, 12 Jan 1912 burial of Syner Burton 42 of Penallt.

OK, just searched Mitchel Troy burials for Burtons & look like several of your family are there.

Albie Alfred Burton 47 Newport bd 8 Nov 1965
Amelia Burton 67 Newport bd 7 Dec 1943
Charles Burton 57 Newport bd 23 Dec 1969
Emmanuel Burton 75 Brook Orchard Bungalow, Mitchel Troy bd 28 Aug 1943
Herbert Burton 70 Brook Orchard Bungalow, Mitchel Troy bd 3 July 1943
Isabell Burton 69 The Bungalow, Mitchel Troy Common bd 22 Nov 1941
Jemima Burton 71 Rumney, Cardiff bd 6 Sep 1982
Richard Burton 65 Monmouth bd 17 Sep 1938
Richard Burton 63 Newport bd 7 May 1970
Selina Burton 94 Mitchel Troy bd 27 Jan 1926

Emmanuel Burton of Brook Bungalow Mitchel Troy Common died 24th August 1943
Probate Llandaff   25 Sep 1943 to Jemima Burton spinster Effects £1705 15s. 4d.

Herbert Burton of Brook Bungalow Mitcheltroy Common died 30 Jun 1943 Monmouthshire
Probate Llandaff   26 Jul 1943 to Frank Burton retired engineer.

Isabella Burton of Brook cottage Mitchel Troy Common spinster died
Death 18 Nov 1941 at The General Hosp Monmouth
Administration Llandaff:   25 Aug 1943 to Emmanuel Burton horse-dealer
Effect £530 Further Grant 6th Jan 1944

Same details for Isabella as above  but
 Admin to Rialto Burton haulage contractor Effects £520
Former Grant D.R. 25 Aug 1943
Probate Date:   7 Jan 1944
Registry:   Llandudno

Jemima Burton of Shire Newton Caravan Site Cardiff
Death 26 Aug 1982 South Glamorgan
Administration:   15 Oct 1982 Newcastle-upon-Tyne

Richard Burton of Coporation Road Newport died 14 Sep 1938 at Gold-wire Lane Monmouthshire Administration Llandaff 8 Oct 1938 to Isabella Burton spinster
Effects £826 17s. 2d.

For info. - may relate

Selina Burton of the Brook Farm Penalt, spinster died 8 Jan 1912 Monmouthshire
Adminstration Llandaff 2 Mar 1912 to Louisa Burton widow Effects £78 172. 9d.

Rialto possible son of Henry & Harriet Burton nee Jones Nr Coedelwa

Henry Burton   35 Horse dealer
Harriet Burton   35
Ethel Jones   11 Stepdau Newchurch East
Beatrice Jones   7 ditto
Rialto Burton   1 Shirenewton, Monmouthshire
John Burton   3 Months
1901c RG13; Piece: 4916; Folio: 25; Page: 9

BURTON, RIALTO  mmn JONES     
 1899  J Quarter in CHEPSTOW  Volume 11A  Page 8   

BURTON, HORI  IVOR  mmn JONES     
 1905  M Quarter in PONTYPOOL  Volume 11A  Page 200

BURTON, OHAD  REUBEN mmn    JONES      - death 1982 Chad Reuben bn 1910
1910  J Quarter in NEWPORT. MON  Volume 11A  Page 340

1911 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7P9-9VX - Rialto & family
Penallt, Gypsy Caravan In A Field Near The Hoop, Monmouthshire

This might be Ethel with her mother Harriet although she's noted as a widow
1891 Piece:   4335 Folio:   129 Page Number:   11
Roadside Farm Newchurch East
Charlotte Jones   65
Leonard W Jones   30
Jacob Jones   28
Harriett Jones   25 dau
William L Jones   6 grandson
Ethel E Jones   1 grandaughter

[Ladyhawk]

Albie Alfred Burton 47 Newport bd 8 Nov 1965

Albie A Burton Birth abt 1918
Dec 1965 Newport Monmouthshire Volume:   8c Page:   150

Births Dec 1918 Bedwelty   11a   210
Albie A Burton mmn Ryles

EDIT

There’s this public tree on Anc*y information should be verified here's a small portion

Ann Amelia Ryles parents unknown 1871–1943
birth SEP 1871 • Staffordshire, United Kingdom
death3 DEC 1943 • Mitchel Troy, Monmouthshire, Wales
No marriage details

Spouse Richard Burton born 1971 died 1938
His parents
Charles Emmanuel Burton 1834-1909 his father Jeremiah 1817 m Harriett Lovell 1815
Selina ORTON 1831-1927

Children of Ann Amelia & Richard Burton
Albie Alfred born 1898 died 1965
Richard born 1900
Charles born 1901

EDIT

family search has this bp Norton le Moors, Staffordshire for an
AAR parents George Frederick Ryles & Georgina
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QL3G-LMHH

RYLES, ANN  AMELIA mmn TRENFIELD     
1871  S Quarter in WOLSTANTON  Volume 06B  Page 135

There is this marriage in 1896 Staffordshire
RYLES   Amelia A   
JONES   Bernard B
Normacot, Holy Evangelist   Stoke-On-Trent
1896 marriage https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QLQD-RY2V

I think this his her death entry

Ann A Jones age 81 Mar 1953 Stoke on Trent Staffordshire Volume:   9b Page:   653

and this is Ann Ameila on 1911 with dau born c1898, a servant in Jack household
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XW76-

JONES, JENNY    mmn   RYLES    
1897  S Quarter in WOLSTANTON  Volume 06B  Page 158

1901 RG13; Piece: 2611; Folio: 20; Page: 31
Bernard B Jones   30
Ann A Jones   29 Burslem, Staffordshire
Jenney Jones   3

1911 boarding Bernard https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XW7C-ZLR

[rebekahm28]

Sorry had no wifi signal, now am home I'm going to sift through all this info tonight - thankyou! Back soon. The Selina Burton of Shire Newton caravan site, Cardiff IS the same one, definitely without a doubt. Same address as on death cert.

[Zenigma]

I'm sorry but I'm coming to this thread late in the day. Jemima Ethel Burton was born on 11 August 1910 and baptised at Caerphilly on 19 February 1914, daughter of Richard & Amelia Burton, the Meadows, Caerphilly, Gipsy. She was buried at Mitchel Troy, Monmouthshire on 6 September 1982. Her father, Richard, was baptised at Preston Gubbals, Shropshire on 4 January 1875, son of Henry and Selina Burton, Merrington field, Tinman. Henry is actually Charles Burton and Selina was formerly Selina Organ. Charles Burton and was the son of Jeremiah Burton & Harriet Lovell. This line is part of a long-established Romany family that I have traced back to the early to mid 18th century. I published a book on the family at the end of last year. Please get in touch if you want more details.

[rebekahm28]

Zenigma, oh my goodness I'll private message you.


Ladyhawk - thankyou for the detailed info, I haven't been on any of the sites for a good while for a few reasons but I appreciate it. Stay safe all x