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How can someone still be so elusive
« on: Tuesday 31 July 18 19:13 BST (UK) »
After taking a break for quite a few years I have picked up tracing my ancestry again.

I am still looking for my great grandmother Ellen Ross (Nee Burke), also known as Helena and Nellie.

She was born 23rd march 1906 and had a twin brother Thomas Burke. They were born in Mountmellick. Her father was William Burke and her mother was Ellen Burke, nee Roberts, nee Adaire.
She had a half sister Mary Roberts and half brothers William and John Roberts. I have the family on the 1911 census and know she married William Ross in August 1923 in Mountmellick and then moved to Kildare to have 3 children. This is where my information on her ends. I can find absolutely nothing on her after this date.
I have travelled over to Dublin twice to search records but with zero results.Ellen and William had( my nana) Lena , Kathleen and Christopher. When my nan was asked about her mum she just said she died when she was little and Kathleen said the same. Sadly, Christopher would have no contact with his sister's and his family still want no contact. Ellen's husband came to England (Stoke on Trent) in the 1950's, but came on his own and his death certificate doesn't state if he was single, widowed or divorced.

I have also not been able to find anything on her half siblings either. Surely, if she had died, then a record would exist somewhere or did she abandon her family ?

Any help or suggestions would be so very much appreciated as after 13 years, I am still none the wiser.
Many thanks
Michelle

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Re: How can someone still be so elusive
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 31 July 18 19:43 BST (UK) »


She was born 23rd march 1906 and had a twin brother Thomas Burke. They were born in Mountmellick. Her father was William Burke and her mother was Ellen Burke, nee Roberts, nee Adaire.
 


.....and here is the Link to her

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Queen_s_Co_/Sallyford/Kilbrackan/791289/

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Re: How can someone still be so elusive
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 31 July 18 19:47 BST (UK) »
Hi,

I have a copy of the census from when I last went to Dublin.

Apart from her marriage record and her name on her children's birth certificates, I'm not able to find anything else out about her :-(

Thanks

Michelle

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Re: How can someone still be so elusive
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 31 July 18 19:56 BST (UK) »
Hi,

I have a copy of the census from when I last went to Dublin.

Apart from her marriage record and her name on her children's birth certificates, I'm not able to find anything else out about her :-(

Thanks

Michelle


Yes...but others don't!


Having looked at it  Burke   Ellen   43   Female   Wife   Catholic   Born Co Kildare

Have you any idea of where??

She married William Ross in August 1923 in Mountmellick and then moved to Kildare to have 3 children. 

Have you any idea of where??





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Re: How can someone still be so elusive
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 31 July 18 19:58 BST (UK) »
Hi,

I have a copy of the census from when I last went to Dublin.

Apart from her marriage record and her name on her children's birth certificates, I'm not able to find anything else out about her :-(

Thanks

Michelle

Apart from the address they were born at!!

Kildare town??

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Re: How can someone still be so elusive
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 31 July 18 20:05 BST (UK) »
It would be helpful if you posted their last known location!

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Re: How can someone still be so elusive
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 31 July 18 20:10 BST (UK) »
Hi,

On William and Ellen's children's birth certificates they are listed as living in Fontstown, Kildare. They were all Baptised in St. Michael's church in Athy. I have copies of their Baptism certificates, kindly sent to me by the church.

Ellen and William were married at the Church of Rath in Mountmellick.

These records are all that seem to exist for her or that I can find :-(.

Thanks

Michelle

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Re: How can someone still be so elusive
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 31 July 18 20:12 BST (UK) »
The Indexes to the Civil Records of Irish Births, Deaths and Marriages date from 1864 with non-Roman Catholic Marriages recorded from 1845.

The years covered by the release of the historic Indexes to the Civil Records of Births, Marriages and Deaths are:

Births: 1864 to 1916

Marriages: 1845* to 1941

Deaths: 1864 to 1966


so records won't be online!