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Paul Smith 18851915 Help please.
« on: Thursday 02 August 18 20:22 BST (UK) »
Paul Smith
18851915 France and Flanders.

Hello
Please can anyone have a look for his army records. I've looked on Ancestry and can't seem to find him. His wife was Florence Elizabeth and son George. Parents Samuel and Mary Ann Smith. 1911 census living in Aston with family and mother in law Emma ingram.
Would love to see his records, he's my grandads Alfred Smith brother.I

Appreciate the help thank you
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Re: Paul Smith 18851915 Help please.
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 02 August 18 20:34 BST (UK) »
Do be aware that some 60% or so of Great War records were destroyed by bombing in WW2 so odds are already against and Paul Smith and variants produce an awful lot of hits in the medal records.

Did he die in 1915, was he invalided out in 1915? Any army numbers anywhere?


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Re: Paul Smith 18851915 Help please.
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 02 August 18 21:34 BST (UK) »
No he died in France and Flanders in 1915. I was hoping to find his army record, but I don't know which regiment..
WHOOP..
Think this is him..
Paul Smith
Birth Place:   Smethwick, Staffs
Residence:   Smethwick
Death Date:   26 Apr 1915
Death Place:   France and Flanders
Enlistment Place:   Coventry
Rank:   Private
Regiment:   Royal Warwickshire Regiment
Battalion:   1st Battalion
Regimental Number:   158
Type of Casualty:   Killed in action
Theatre of War:   Western European Theatre
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Re: Paul Smith 18851915 Help please.
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 02 August 18 22:05 BST (UK) »
That Paul Smith had a mother in law called Mrs Emma Ingram - does that add up?  For him there is no service record although his medal card is extant and the info about mother in law is in the Effects register.

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Re: Paul Smith 18851915 Help please.
« Reply #4 on: Friday 03 August 18 11:51 BST (UK) »
Marriage:
Paul Smith=Florence Elizabeth Ingram 1908 Aston.
Looks like him Max.
He had the unenviable distinction of witnessing one of the first gas attacks.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
Census information is Crown copyright,from
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Re: Paul Smith 18851915 Help please.
« Reply #5 on: Friday 03 August 18 18:48 BST (UK) »
Yes, that's him.That sounds awful, so did he die in the gas attack? Where do I access the medal and effects register.

Thanks so much for the information.
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Re: Paul Smith 18851915 Help please.
« Reply #6 on: Friday 03 August 18 18:59 BST (UK) »
The effects register is on Ancestry.
He didn't die in the gas attack.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
Census information is Crown copyright,from
www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/

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Re: Paul Smith 18851915 Help please.
« Reply #7 on: Friday 03 August 18 19:30 BST (UK) »
Thank you.
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Re: Paul Smith 18851915 Help please.
« Reply #8 on: Friday 03 August 18 19:37 BST (UK) »
I'm pretty sure he died on the 25th. not 26th. This was the 2nd. Battle of Ypres.
1/RWR were part of a large offensive force attempting to re-take St. Julien after the Germans used gas against the Canadians a few days earlier.
Their part was to take the wood held by the Germans.
Unfortunately they suffered 500 casualties by m/g fire & shelling.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
Census information is Crown copyright,from
www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/