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Offline SALONIKA

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Port Patrick records
« on: Friday 03 August 18 12:59 BST (UK) »
Hi I'm hoping someone might be able to help me, I'm looking for the birth record of  Susannah Smith born in portpatrick  1834-6  also her marriage to Charles COPELAND who came from northern Ireland I have looked through the English records but can find none  they are my great grandparents
    thanks   JIM

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Re: Port Patrick records
« Reply #1 on: Friday 03 August 18 16:39 BST (UK) »
Hi Jim,

Are this couple living in  Great Grimbsy. Lincolnshire by the time of the 1861 Census?
If so (according to Freecen transcription) , Susanna Copeland's birthplace is Ireland.

What makes you think Susanna is born in Portpatrick?
There is a family on 1841 Census at Portpatrick living in what could be a large household with a couple of other families (either that or the transcriber has not been aware of different heads of house) -
Johnston Smith      age 32     Mason         Ireland
Susan Smith          age 29      Wife           Ireland
James Smith          age 12      Son            Ireland
Hugh Smith            age 10      Son              **
Susan Smith           age 6       Dau               **
Johnston Smith       age 4       Son               **
John Smith             age 1       Son            Wigtownshire

The family obviously have arrived in Scotland during the late 1830s/1840 period. Could this be Susanna Smith and her family, if you believe your Susanna has a Portpatrick connection?

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Re: Port Patrick records
« Reply #2 on: Friday 03 August 18 17:44 BST (UK) »
Freebmd has a Charles Copeland/Coupland marriage in 1859 Lincolnshire to a Thirza/Thyrza Smith
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Re: Port Patrick records
« Reply #3 on: Friday 03 August 18 17:56 BST (UK) »
Hi ,
    There is a Susannah Smith born Portpatrick  31st October 1838 christened  3rd November 1838 father Alexander mother Susannah Milroy

Could this be her ?

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Re: Port Patrick records
« Reply #4 on: Friday 03 August 18 17:59 BST (UK) »
1851 census has two Smith families with a Susan born at Portpatrick, Wigtownshire.

Susan Smith (67), pauper, Widow,born Ireland with daughter Susan (19) born Portpatrick, sewer of muslin living at Princes St., Stranraer.

Susan Smith (35) wife of seaman, b New Luce. William (15) son, Susan (12) daughter, Hugh (10) son, Alexander (1) son all born Portpatrick. Living at Cock St., Portpatrick.

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Re: Port Patrick records
« Reply #5 on: Friday 03 August 18 18:06 BST (UK) »
If Susan was born in Scotland - have you not checked Scotlandís People for a marriage?  Why check English marriages unless you have info about the family that is not included in your post
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Re: Port Patrick records
« Reply #6 on: Friday 03 August 18 18:27 BST (UK) »


Family on 1841 census South Crescent Street Portpatrick
Alexander 26 Fisherman  born Wigtownshire
Susan 25 wife                    "
William  5 son                    "
Susan  2 daughter              "
                               

on 1851 census Cock Street Portpatrick

Susan age 35 Fisherman's wife born New Luce
William 15 son born Portpatrick
Susan   12  daughter seamstress     Portpatrick
Hugh     10   son scholar Portpatrick
Alexander 1 son     Portpatrick

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Re: Port Patrick records
« Reply #7 on: Friday 03 August 18 22:12 BST (UK) »
The family I found on 1861 Census at Great Grimsby are living on Cleethorpe Road -

COPELAND   Charles   Head   M  30  Blacksmith  Ireland
COPELAND   Susanna  Wife    M  27                   Ireland
COPELAND   Mary        Dau          8   Scholar     Lincolnshire - Gt Grimsby
COPELAND   Charles     Son          4   Scholar     Lincolnshire - Gt Grimsby
COPELAND   John Thomas  Son     2   Scholar     Lincolnshire - Gt Grimsby

0f course, I don't know if this is the couple Salonika has posted about. But with the mention of checking English marriage records I thought it feasible that the people he is researching might be in England.  The above record is per Freecen transcription.

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Re: Port Patrick records
« Reply #8 on: Friday 03 August 18 22:31 BST (UK) »
Found a birth reg for son Charles 1857 Caistor and GRO online confirms mmn is Smith
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