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Re: Port Patrick records
« Reply #9 on: Friday 03 August 18 22:36 BST (UK) »
Son James was born 1855 and died 1860
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Re: Port Patrick records
« Reply #10 on: Friday 03 August 18 22:39 BST (UK) »
The family seem to be in the same area up to 1891 census where Susannah has birth place as Portpatrick.
 There is a death for Susannah Copeland 1895 (59) Caistor and a death for Charles Copeland 1899 (64) Grimsby. Hope they might be the same people.

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Re: Port Patrick records
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 04 August 18 12:21 BST (UK) »
Seems too much of a coincidence for it not to be them.  Would help if Jim could confirm the “Lincolnshire” connection
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Re: Port Patrick records
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 04 August 18 17:08 BST (UK) »
Hi  I'm sorry but I didn't explain myself very well when I posted about my great ggrandparents
yes the family lived in Lincolnshire and they are the family some of the posts are talking about
so thank you for the information you have given me about Susannah,s birth and census results. for port Patrick.it looks like the 1838 baptism could be the one so I will have to look into that
I was hoping to find a marriage between Charles and Susannah in Scotland but it doesn't look as though it happened there so maybe Northern Ireland or even the chance that they never married
so once again thank you for the information you have given me
                         Jim

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Re: Port Patrick records
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 04 August 18 20:34 BST (UK) »
Hi Jim,

I wouldn't rule out Susannah belonging to the Irish family headed by Johnston Smith and living in Portpatrick at the time of the 1841 census which I posted about earlier.

Because, look who is on the 1851 England Census at Great Grimsby  - Caistor
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGN2-HCJ


Susan Smith        Head    F    40   Ireland
Hugh Smith         Son     M    18   Ireland
Susanna Smith    Daughter  F 15   Ireland
Johnston Smith    Son       M   13  Ireland
John Smith          Son       M   19   Scotland  (I wonder if this age is correct / he should be  11 ?)
William Smith      Son       M     8    Scotland
Thomas Smith      Son       M    6   Scotland

The father of the children, Johnston Smith, is dead. Susan Smith is recorded as a Stone Mason's Widow. Susanna is a General Servant. Brother Hugh is a stone mason.
This would suggest to me that if there was a marriage between Charles Copeland and Susanna Smith it would most likely be in Lincolnshire.

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Re: Port Patrick records
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 04 August 18 21:18 BST (UK) »
Reply removed - not same person
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Re: Port Patrick records
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 04 August 18 22:01 BST (UK) »
Family Search has 1851 census for a Charles Copland (24) single, mason's labourer. He is a lodger with McCutcheon family (from Ireland) at Caistor, Great Grimsby. Two of the youngest McCutcheon children were born in Scotland (aged 10 and 8 in 1851).
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Re: Port Patrick records
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 04 August 18 22:05 BST (UK) »
There is a Susannah Smith marriage in 1851 Caistor but there are an even number of male/females on the page and none of the males is Charles
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Re: Port Patrick records
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 04 August 18 22:10 BST (UK) »
Hiya -

I just spotted that Caistor marriage too Carole   :o

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