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Is Helen
« on: Sunday 05 August 18 14:05 BST (UK) »
HELP! Does anyone have a clear copy of 1841 census. My copy is indistinct for the occupants of Is Helen, Caernarfon. One of my ancestors, Thomas Thomas, lived at Is Helen (Llanbeblig?) with his wife and 12 children - they actually had 14! - I have been able to decipher Thomas Thomas, his wife Ann, and children John (20) and Mary 18) but not the remaining nine.

Would be so grateful if someone could help me out.
Roberts, Caernarfon. Thomas, Caernarfon. Kite, Kent.

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Re: Is Helen
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 05 August 18 14:08 BST (UK) »
If you give the piece, book, folio & page it would be far easier for another to look.
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Re: Is Helen
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 05 August 18 14:09 BST (UK) »
HO107 /1394 bk7 f28 p2
All born in county except Ann

Thomas 50 occ Gardener
Ann 47
John 20
Mary 18
Frances 16
Sarah 14
Elinor 14
Thomas 12
Elizabeth 12
George 10
Catherine 8
William 6
Adelaide 6
Edward 4
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Re: Is Helen
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 05 August 18 14:14 BST (UK) »
Beat me to it - FindMyPast image is quite clear.

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Re: Is Helen
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 05 August 18 16:46 BST (UK) »
In case you dont have exact Baptism dates of children they are on FreeREG;
St Peblig, Llanbeblig
John 1819
Jane 1821 (not on 1841 Census with Parents)**** see below posting
William 1822 (not on 1841 Census with Parents)
Mary 1823
Frances 1825
Sarah 1827
Ellen 1827
Thomas 1828
Elizabeth 1828
George 1830
Catherine 1831
William 1834
Adelaide 1834
Edward 1836
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Re: Is Helen
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 05 August 18 16:59 BST (UK) »
Not sure about this one now;
Jane  7 Oct 1821 (not on 1841 Census with Parents)
Entry has Mother as Ann PARRY
But a Thomas Thomas/Anne Parry didnt marry until 27 Feb 1822

I presume your Thomas married Ann CLUBB 28 Mar 1815?
So 1st child was Robert Bapt 22 Oct 1815?
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Re: Is Helen
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 05 August 18 19:18 BST (UK) »
Can't thank you enough, Trish.  There was a girl, Ann, born after Robert. She married a farmer from the Llyn Peninsula, then a master mariner and lived in Uxbridge Terrace, Caernarfon. One of her two daughters from her first marriage married my grandfather.

Having a difficult time at the moment as my house was burgled, vandalised and fired and lots of my research vanished - having to start from scratch.

So grateful to the Rootschatters who are helping out.
Roberts, Caernarfon. Thomas, Caernarfon. Kite, Kent.

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Re: Is Helen
« Reply #7 on: Monday 06 August 18 12:51 BST (UK) »
I am so sorry for what you have been through, you must have been traumatised.
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Re: Is Helen
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 07 August 18 10:26 BST (UK) »
Hi Trish,

Thanks for your kind thoughts. Good news is that I have found an undamaged memory stick with all my paternal side (Roberts) on. Bad news is that I had put my maternal side (Thomas) on a memory stick. Have to start again. Would I be able to find Thomas Thomas' first daughter Ann/Annie (b1816/17/18) on FreeReg?

Thanks again

Roberts, Caernarfon. Thomas, Caernarfon. Kite, Kent.