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Re: trying to understand german death notice for Wilhelm Diedrich
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 07 August 18 15:59 BST (UK) »
Karen and Mike,
Thank you for the clarification and your suggestions. I appreciate all the help. my friend and I thought that the place was maybe Garz, but I'll check out Lärz too. I believe that my great grandfather's family may have come from northern Germany, but I am not positive. His name was Max C.W. Diedrich. Born around 1864 in Germany. He immigrated to the US around 1883. By the 1890's, he was married and living in Rochester, NY. He & his wife had a saloon/restaurant in Rochester and by the very early 1900's he just seems to have disappeared. My father never really knew what happened to him, so I don't have a lot to go on. The relative and I who are trying to figure this out, are 3rd cousins according to ancestrydna. His great grandfather was Frederick A. Diedrick and by 1880 or so he was in the US also. Frederick was born around 1850. His kids were born in NY state, not too far from Rochester and he received his citizenship papers in NY in a county courthouse not too far from Rochester also. Then his family moved out to the midwest. My 3rd cousin had this death notice. For us to be 3rd cousins, we are thinking that our great grandfathers were probably brothers, Max being the younger brother. After getting everyone's help with this notice, I am now thinking that Wilhelm was an older brother who stayed in Germany. Frederick's first wife passed away in May of 1891 leaving him with 4 children. I believe that someone in Germany must have sent Frederick Wilhelm's death notice and that is how my 3rd cousins mother came to be in possession of it. Does that sound plausible? Any suggestions for where I can turn next for additional information making the connection back to Germany? Thanks again to everyone. Judy

Karen, I had just gotten this written when I was notified of your additional post, thank you! I will check with my 3rd cousin and see if he ever heard anything about relatives having to do with boats or boating. Over here our relatives all seemed to be in farming on his side and businesses on my side. Thanks for the information though. Every little thing helps! :-) Judy

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Re: trying to understand german death notice for Wilhelm Diedrich
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 07 August 18 16:14 BST (UK) »
Thanks everyone. I appreciate the help! :-)

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Re: trying to understand german death notice for Wilhelm Diedrich
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 07 August 18 16:18 BST (UK) »
Hi Judy,

Just in case... ;D

Is any of this info from you?

myheritage.com:

https://www.myheritage.com/names/luise_diedrich

Louise Diedrich was born in 1865, at birth place, to Peter Vollmar and Catharina Vollmar.
Louise was baptized on month day 1865, at baptism place.
She had 3 siblings: Louise Catherine Diedrich and 2 other siblings.
Louise married Max C.W. Diedrich in between 1887 and 1889, at age 22.
They had 3 children: Otto Peter Diedrich and 2 other children.
Louise lived at address.
Louise passed away on month day 1935, at age 70 at death place, New York.

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hahnlibrary.net

http://www.hahnlibrary.net/cgi-bin/genealogy/igmget.pl/n=Weizel-Kovacs?I1007

Also Known As: Max C. W. Dietrich
Born: in Germany 5 3
Died: BET. 1890 - 1900 3 6 2
Occupation: BET. 1888 - 1890: Carpenter 2
Residence 1: 1888: 151 Chatham, Rochester, Monroe, New York 2
Residence 2: 1889: 3 Union Place, Rochester, Monroe, New York 2
Residence 3: 1890: 10 Rhine, Rochester, Monroe, New York 2

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There are also some mentions on Ancestry.com.

Karen
McDonald MacDonald M'Donald McGregor MacGregor M'Gregor Twilley Wells Fentiman Carrington Rowe Needham Mitchell Mackie Collingwood Fuller Maides Shilton Hagon Budd

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Re: trying to understand german death notice for Wilhelm Diedrich
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 07 August 18 16:40 BST (UK) »
Yes, Karen, that is my great grandmother & the Max I am trying to locate after he disappeared from the Rochester area in the early 1900's. I have tried to contact the Hahn website to update this information. The people they have as living, including my father, have passed away and I have the dates, but I haven't been able to reach anyone as of yet. I just tried to email them again the other day. I also have city directories that I found on ancestry. That's how I found out that Louise became the sole owner of the saloon/restaurant in the early 1900's. After a few years passed, she was finally listed in the directory as a widow, but not the first couple of years. When I found another Diedrick that I was related to in ancetsrydna, I contacted him and now we are trying to establish our connection. I am hoping that if we can figure out our connection, I will be able to get back into Germany and find out more about my father's grandfather's family. Any suggestions you may have I would appreciate. Thanks again! Judy


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Re: trying to understand german death notice for Wilhelm Diedrich
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 07 August 18 18:01 BST (UK) »
From the handwriting, Garz seems much more likely than Larz.  I didn't check "Garz".There are undoubtely German genealogy resources where you can get more info.
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Re: trying to understand german death notice for Wilhelm Diedrich
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 07 August 18 18:20 BST (UK) »
Thanks, Mike.

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Re: trying to understand german death notice for Wilhelm Diedrich
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 07 August 18 19:38 BST (UK) »
This is definitely Garz.

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Re: trying to understand german death notice for Wilhelm Diedrich
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 07 August 18 20:11 BST (UK) »
Thanks, Dave.

Judy