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Brueton's - Gun Makers/Metal Workers- Shoreditch/Stepney
« on: Monday 06 August 18 23:11 BST (UK) »
Hi
I am trying to find the connection between a group of brothers or cousins who worked in both Birmingham and London at gun making and metal refining/reclaiming. Some born in Birmingham and some in London. It's also complicated by their unusual surname because it is often mistranscribed.

Previous topic
Edward & Joseph Brueton - Gun Makers
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=715625.msg5592790#msg5592790


Edward (born about 1787 in Shoreditch but lives Birmingham) and Joseph Brueton (born about 1789 in Darlaston but also moves to Birmingham)

An Edward and Joseph are both in business together in Birmingham in 1858 at 22 Sheep Street - gun finisher/gun breech maker (trade directory, more in link to other topic). I have all the census info for Joseph and wife Phoebe

Edward is on the 1851 census
202 Heneage Street
Birmingham
Edward Bructon (Brueton) b 1787 Shoreditch , London - gun finisher
Elizabeth (nee Cooper) b 1795 Birmingham
Rubin 1831 Birmingham - gun finisher
Hariet 1833 Birmingham
John 1835 Birmingham
Lodgers
Sampson Tims (Sims) 1824 Warwickshire - refiner in gold  (Edwards son in law) 
Elizabeth 1831 (nee Brueton)
William 1846
Thomas 1 month

Nearby on the same census at Moland Street is
Thomas Brueton b 1791 London, Middlesex (coincidence?) - gold watch hand maker
Ann wife
Moland Street is close to the area where both Edward, Joseph and their family lived or had businesses. I have a lot of info on Joseph but not Edward, or how they are related

I did think this below was Edward (b 1787) but am confused about his date of birth and it looks like he was born before the marriage
St leonards, Shoreditch
Edward Brueton son of
Edward Brueton and Margaret
Bapt 12th June 1791
Born 6th Nov 1791  :o

Marriage
St Dunstan, Stepney
26th May 1795
Edward Brueton to Margaret Tuslin (possibly Tustin?)


Also there are two Edwards in London on the 1841 census, I think both addresses could be a workhouse or some kind of institution?
Ironmonger Row, St Luke, Middlesex,
Edward Brueton age 65/69
Margaret Brueton age 55/59

Gough Street, St Pancras
Edward Brueton 60/64
Ann Brueton (nee hackett?)

There is also a Brueton 'broach maker' on the early census, I think with a Margaret, but sorry I don't have that info at the moment, it's just from memory
There was a Thomas Brueton who was a senior gun maker in the mid 1700's, his name is stamped on some pistols, but we haven't worked out the connection yet or whether he was based in Birmingham or London or both.

Any info or help unravelling them is appreciated

Thanks


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Re: Brueton's - Gun Makers/Metal Workers- Shoreditch/Stepney
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 07 August 18 00:36 BST (UK) »
....also forgot to add. Edward (1851 Census, Henegae Street, Birmingham) had two sons, George and William, who were involved in gun robberies at a gun factory in Birmingham and arrested in Nov 1857. It seems the stolen factory 'small arms' were being dismantled, names/numbers filed off and then rebuilt to be sold as 'Brueton' guns

In the court evidence/newspapers it states that 'Met' police from London had spied on the family business in Birmingham as part of their investigations.

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Re: Brueton's - Gun Makers/Metal Workers- Shoreditch/Stepney
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 07 August 18 00:48 BST (UK) »
Sorry, I can't take you back any further, but

Brueton is mentioned several times in the Grace's Guide to British Industrial History.

for instance, clicking on a couple of links on the below webpage showed these two items :

* J Brueton mentioned in the  1849 Directory: Listed as White Smiths and Job Smiths ( a whitesmith usually meant a silversmith and a jobsmith usually meant it would consider working with any metal).

* Brueton Fowler. Gillott made the Waverley Pens until the mid 1870s, (illustration of pen nib)

https://gracesguide.co.uk/Special:Search?search=Brueton&fulltext=

Aberdeen: Findlay-Shirras,McCarthy: MidLothian: Mason,Telford,Darling,Cruikshanks,Bennett,Sime, Bell: Lanarks:Crum, Brown, MacKenzie,Cameron, Glen, Millar; Ross: Urray:Mackenzie:  Moray: Findlay; Marshall/Marischell: Perthshire: Brown Ferguson: Wales: McCarthy, Thomas: England: Almond, Askin, Dodson, Well(es). Harrison, Maw, McCarthy, Munford, Pye, Shearing, Smith, Smythe, Speight, Strike, Wallis/Wallace, Ward, Wells;Germany: Flamme,Ehlers, Bielstein, Germer, Mohlm, Reupke

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Re: Brueton's - Gun Makers/Metal Workers- Shoreditch/Stepney
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 07 August 18 00:53 BST (UK) »
Sorry, I can't take you back any further, but

Brueton is mentioned several times in the Grace's Guide to British Industrial History.

for instance, clicking on a couple of links on the below webpage showed these two items :

* J Brueton mentioned in the  1849 Directory: Listed as White Smiths and Job Smiths ( a whitesmith usually meant a silversmith and a jobsmith usually meant it would consider working with any metal).

* Brueton Fowler. Gillott made the Waverley Pens until the mid 1870s, (illustration of pen nib)

https://gracesguide.co.uk/Special:Search?search=Brueton&fulltext=


Thanks Rena, that looks like a good lead  :)
One of Josephs sons is also listed as a 'whitesmith' on a census in Birmingham


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Re: Brueton's - Gun Makers/Metal Workers- Shoreditch/Stepney
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 07 August 18 06:54 BST (UK) »
The Thomas Breuton who is listed in a directory 1770 Warwickshire as a gun maker, died 16 October 1799.
Ref: Index to death duty registers.
So there is a will somewhere in Warwickshire, if he named relatives, you could work forward and see what you find. 

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Re: Brueton's - Gun Makers/Metal Workers- Shoreditch/Stepney
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 07 August 18 07:32 BST (UK) »
For those looking 1841 census shows name variation Broughton
3 Northampton Court, Northampton Street, Aston
Edward Broughton 55 Gun Finisher not born in county
Elizabeth 56
William 20
George 14
Reuben 11
Eliza 11
Harriet 7
John 5
wife and children all born in county

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Re: Brueton's - Gun Makers/Metal Workers- Shoreditch/Stepney
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 07 August 18 08:38 BST (UK) »
When Edward Brueton married Elizabeth Cooper at St Mary's Handsworth  28 December 1812
Witness Thomas Brueton, Mary Ann ?
Edward and Thomas signed the register.

Are you thinking this is the Thomas born 1791 in Shoreditch?

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Re: Brueton's - Gun Makers/Metal Workers- Shoreditch/Stepney
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 07 August 18 09:10 BST (UK) »
Edward Breuton died 18 June 1857 and is buried St Peter and St Paul churchyard.
Can also be found on Find a grave

civil registration has the name Edward Brueten age 68 death recorded Aston 1857.

ADDED this would give birth date circa 1789

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Re: Brueton's - Gun Makers/Metal Workers- Shoreditch/Stepney
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 07 August 18 10:02 BST (UK) »
Thank you so much amondg. This is great info!
I am at work at the moment but will reply in more detail as soon as I can.