Brueton's - Gun Makers/Metal Workers- Shoreditch/Stepney

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Children of Edward and Elizabeth Brueton (found so far)

Elizabeth born 6 March 1814
Edward  born 1816 buried St Martin's 7 July 1818 age 2
Edward born 18 September 1818
William born 22 April 1821
Maria born 25 October 1823
? possible another child 1825
George  born 7 October 1827
Reuben born 4 May 1830
Eliza born 4 May 1830  (twins)
Harriet born 8 January 1833
John born 18 September 1835

Father is a gun finisher on all records, the address Stanforth/Staniforth Street.
 
It doesn't help when Joseph, Thomas and Edward have children with the same names

[sallyyorks]

This is what we have for children of Joseph (1789) and Phoebe (nee Perry).

Thomas 1811
Joseph 1813/16?
Mary 1815
Elijah 1818
Theophilus 1820 (this name is passed down*)
Henry 1823
Charles 1826
John 1829

The older ones were born Darlaston, Staffs. They are in Birmingham by 1841.

Birmingham
Joseph junior (b 1813) is at Sheep Street in 1861 (gun breech forger) and was in the trade directory 1858 with an Edward at the same address (Sheep St) . So that Edward is more likely to be Edward junior (1818) than senior, if senior Edward died in 1857. The same generation as Joseph (1813)  junior his business partner. Interesting that Edwards sons were arrested (November) after he had died (June). 'Staniforth St" crops up a lot and is mentioned at the trial, also 'the wharf' is mentioned


Not sure about the Shoreditch  Thomas.
Edward born Shoreditch was a great clue because it took us to London where there are other metal working Bruetons and also the other Bruetons in Birmingham but also born in London

Yes the Thomas gun maker 1770 is the owner of the business we believe. Gun makers assembled the parts. Each part having been made seperately

* The passed down name Theophilus is interesting because there is a Theophilus Bruerton in London in the 17th century.

Again thanks for help

[sallyyorks]

Edit to my last post

The London record for a Theophilus Bruerton is the 16th century not the 17th . No proof that he is related but it is such an unusual  name and it was passed down in the family

Theophilus Bruerton
Christening Date   06 Oct 1574
Christening Place   ST LAWRENCE JEWRY AND ST MARY MAGDALENE MILK STRLON,LONDON,LONDON,ENGLAND

There is also a burial for a metal worker in Staffs, who may have been itinerant

19th June 1626 Milwich/Codsall,  Staffs
William Bruerton the 'Tynker' (Tinker)

But this is way back and again, as yet no proof of a connection.

[Rena]

I've never heard of the Brueton surname before and when I saw the latest post with the spelling of Bruerton, I wondered if you'd seen this webpage:-

"Supplement to: Sir George Carew's Scroll of Arms
Although the common law courts in Great Britain do not regard coats of arms as either property or as being defensible by legal action, armorial bearings are a form of property nevertheless, generally described as insignia of gentility. Armorial bearings according to the Law of Arms are incorporeal and impartible hereditaments, inalienable, and descendable. "

Bruerton arms

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/Holland1900

[sallyyorks]

Hi again Rena, and thank you for the link, I hadn't seen a coat of arms mentioned before. I must admit it would be nice to find some posh Bruetons/Bruertons  in the line, if only because they would have left more records

Yes it's an unusual name and we have seen it spelt so many different ways on the records. It seems to be spelt more with the extra 'R' in Staffordshire, but in Birmingham it often seems to be just Brueton.
I don't recall seeing any of the sons of Joseph signing their name, Elijah 1818 is my line, they just seemed to sign with a X at marriage until the mid/late 19th century. I don't think many of them were literate before that.

I found this info on a Birmingham history forum about T Brueton gun maker.
http://birminghamhistory.co.uk/forum/index.php?threads/gun-making.30733/

?-1756 - takes an apprentice called William Spittle
1770-75 - Thomas Brueton, Gun Maker, 93 High St Birmingham
1776 - Thomas Brueton, Gun Maker, Coleshill St Birmingham
1777-? - Thomas Brueton, Gun Maker, 5 Prospect Row Birmingham

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[...]Edward (born about 1787 in Shoreditch but lives Birmingham)



[...]Edward is on the 1851 census
202 Heneage Street
Birmingham
Edward Bructon (Brueton) b 1787 Shoreditch , London - gun finisher


[...]I did think this below was Edward (b 1787) but am confused about his date of birth and it looks like he was born before the marriage
St leonards, Shoreditch
Edward Brueton son of
Edward Brueton and Margaret
Bapt 12th June 1791
Born 6th Nov 1791 

[...]Marriage
St Dunstan, Stepney
26th May 1795
Edward Brueton to Margaret Tuslin (possibly Tustin?)

Thinking about this again. The birth date for the christening on the 12th June is obviously mistranscribed. I wonder if the original entry for the birth is the year 1787 instead of 1791?

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Will of Thomas Brueton who died 1799
A typed transcription is on a tree -ancestry.

Written 4 March 1797 probate October 1799
wife Catherine
Brothers Samuel and Edward
son in law William Wheelwright
grandsons William and Thomas Wheelwright
niece Elizabeth wife of George Clarkson
Dorithy widow of Samuel
widow of Edward (no name given)
Ann widow of John Brueton
niece Ann Douse
cousin John Newy
pallbearers Richard Newy and Daniel Stephens who are 1st cousins, there are 6 pall bearers the others are friends.

Children of brother Edward
Elizabeth (so not Elizabeth Clarkson)
Rebecca
Edward
Thomas
Properties given are mentioned, the original would be best in case the typed one missed something.

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I'm not sure I agree that Edward junior is the man at Sheep Street 1858. The information is gathered well in advance of publishing, and in those days the type was handset.

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Will of Thomas Brueton who died 1799
A typed transcription is on a tree -ancestry.

Written 4 March 1797 probate October 1799
wife Catherine
Brothers Samuel and Edward
son in law William Wheelwright
grandsons William and Thomas Wheelwright
niece Elizabeth wife of George Clarkson
Dorithy widow of Samuel
widow of Edward (no name given)
Ann widow of John Brueton
niece Ann Douse
cousin John Newy
pallbearers Richard Newy and Daniel Stephens who are 1st cousins, there are 6 pall bearers the others are friends.

Children of brother Edward
Elizabeth (so not Elizabeth Clarkson)
Rebecca
Edward
Thomas
Properties given are mentioned, the original would be best in case the typed one missed something.

Great find!
It's funny but I remember looking at some of these names years ago, especially Dorithy for some reason

Samuel Brueton
Spouse's Name   Dorothy Bradnock
Event Date -01 Jan 1744
Event Place- Saint Martin,Birmingham,Warwick,England

Samuel Bruton
Spouse's Name   Elisabeth Newey
Event Date 27 Apr 1725
Event Place Saint Phillips,Birmingham,Warwick,England

According to family, the Neweys and the Bruetons knew each other for many generations. Josephs son Elijah (b 1818) married Mary Ann Newey (1845).
Mary Anns great grandmother was a Tustin (this is why I mentioned in my first post that Margaret 'Tuslin', who married an Edward in Stepney 1795, might be a 'Tustin' (or variant).


Jonathan Newey
Spouse's Name   Mary Teston
Event Date 27 Jul 1747
Event Place Saint Phillips,Birmingham,Warwick,England


So Thomas (gun maker) had at least two brothers Edward and Samuel. I wonder who 'John' (wife Ann) is, it looks like he had a son Edward too! 
Great going and lots to look into now

Thank you

Added, yes agree about the 1858 trade directory Edward at Sheep St, could be the father Edward