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Re: Evelyn Watson
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 08 August 18 16:46 BST (UK) »
I have all the information about Evelyn, I lived in the same area as a child, I just need the marriage info, thank you also Rosie, I also have the picture of 3 Windsor Road, looks a grand house,

Not as grand as some in Teddington  ;D

I wonder if they were renting
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Re: Evelyn Watson
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 08 August 18 16:57 BST (UK) »
Might this be the death of her first husband - https://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/1594811/muir,-thomas-herbert/

Golders Green, mentioned here, is close to Hampstead, where the marriage took place. But if it is him, it looks as though he still had his parents listed as next of kin, rather than his new wife.
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Re: Evelyn Watson
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 08 August 18 17:03 BST (UK) »
Looks highly likely.

But she must have remarried within weeks of his death.

Getting the Muir/Watson marriage cert would confirm (or rule out) as would say if she was a widow and if her father was a Russell.
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Re: Evelyn Watson
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 08 August 18 17:07 BST (UK) »
Yes, it is him. Marriage at St James, West Hampstead on 27 Dec 1915 - image at Ancestry.

He's an Electrical Engineer (Pioneer 1st Canadian), son of William Joseph Muir. She's daughter of Jack Russell, of independent means, and gives an address in Teddington.
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Re: Evelyn Watson
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 08 August 18 17:29 BST (UK) »
Lots been discovered while I've been 'dabbling'.

From what I have found her husband appears to be a William Watson and at least one child they had was a George G. Watson born in 1922 Epsom.   Looks like they moved around somewhat and living in Hampshire before the war.   

She was born in the last quarter of 1885 and think this is her death entry:

Evelyn Watson bc.1886 died Sept.qtr.1950 Poole, Dorset.

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Re: Evelyn Watson
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 08 August 18 17:36 BST (UK) »
Possible children for Evelyn

WATSON, Evelyn  Alberta  mmn   RUSSELL 
1917  Sep KINGSTON  Volume 02A  Page 683

Watson   Harry E mmn Russell
1919 Dec  Kingston   2a   958

Watson   George G   mmn Russell
1922 Dec Epsom   2a   42

and this might be Evelyn on incoming passenger list

Evelyn Watson 45, housewife
Evelyn A Watson 13
Port of Departure:   Quebec, Canada
Arrival date:   6 Jun 1931
Port of Arrival:   Southampton, England
Ports of Voyage:   Cherbourg
Ship Name:   Empress of Australia
Proposed address in UK 50, The Parade Epsom

Evelyn Watson 47 Housewife
Harry Watson 12
George Watson 9
Evelyn A Watson 15
Port of Departure:   Quebec, Canada
Arrival date:   14 Jun 1933
Port of Arrival:   Southampton, England
Ports of Voyage:   Quebec
Ship Name:   Empress of Australia
Proposed address in UK  “Magpie” Dorking Rd Epsom

Edit - outgoing passenger list

Evelyn Watson 45 Housewife
Evelyn Watson 13
Pevensey No 50 The Parade Epsom
Departure Date:   25 Jul 1931
Port of Departure:   Southampton, England
Destination Port:   Montreal, Canada
Ship Name:   Montclare
 



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Re: Evelyn Watson
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 08 August 18 17:48 BST (UK) »
free search 1939 register in Bournemouth C.B.   Hampshire

William 1884, Evelyn 1885 & George G WATSON 1922 and 2 officially closed
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Re: Evelyn Watson
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 08 August 18 19:46 BST (UK) »
Hi, Sorry I had to cook tea and then it has taken me a while to digest the information.
First of all, you are right KGarrad, Evelyn is not on the 1911 census, I was going by memory before, now I have the details in front of me, she would have been 25 years old when that census was taken, maybe she appears on another census under her married name.
Hi Lizdb, It surely must be more of a coincidence, does the marriage in Teddington give an actual address? It must be her, for her brother to die there, more than coincidence! I do not have a subscription to Ancestry any more as until this cropped up, I had hit a brick wall with my family history and found I was not using it. Thank you arthurk, what worries me about your info is that Evelyn’s father was John William Russell and for most of his later years he was out of work or when in work he was a coal miner, did you mean that Evelyn was the person of independent means? If so her first husband must have been wealthy!
I think I can now establish the fact that my Grandfather Roland died at his sisters house in Teddington, at the time my Grandmother was in Leeds with 3 small children, he was buried in Leeds though! Maybe probate in Ancestry would throw up some information if someone could do that for me. Thanks again everyone, I will now read and digest it all again.
Tebbs... Leicester, Gainsborough, Lincoln, Hunslet,Harehills, Leeds
Daniel....Hyde Park Leeds, Paddington London
Russell...Harehills, Leeds
Hope ..Harehills (Leeds)
Coop..Leicester, Birmingham
Payne..Leicester, Blackpool

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Re: Evelyn Watson
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 08 August 18 20:20 BST (UK) »
Thank you arthurk, what worries me about your info is that Evelyn’s father was John William Russell and for most of his later years he was out of work or when in work he was a coal miner, did you mean that Evelyn was the person of independent means? If so her first husband must have been wealthy!

It means that her father was of independent means. I don't know how old he'd have been then, but might he have had some kind of pension, so that he no longer needed to work? Or was it a euphemism for unemployed?

Just to give you a bit more from the register entry, Evelyn was aged 30, and of "St Lucia", Hampton Road, Teddington. And in case it helps, the witnesses were Gladys Ahrens (?) Muir, George Llewellyn Hopkins, and Horace S Lee.

Ancestry have 3 military records for Thomas H Muir, but they seem to be inaccessible to me, possibly because he was in a Canadian regiment. They should be available with a worldwide sub, or at a library. Alternatively, Ancestry currently have a free offer on their sister site Fold3, for British and Commonwealth military records. That might be worth a look, but remember to look out for them taking money and auto-renewing etc.
Researching among others:
Bartle, Bilton, Bingley, Campbell, Craven, Emmott, Harcourt, Hirst, Kellet(t), Kennedy,
Meaburn, Mennile/Meynell, Metcalf(e), Palliser, Robinson, Rutter, Shipley, Stow, Wilkinson

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