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Offline Susan Smith

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George Smith b1869 Spalding Lincs
« on: Wednesday 08 August 18 19:41 BST (UK) »
Hi, 

I found George with his wife Elizabeth b1862 Tenterden, residing in East Ham in 1901 Census, Piece 1607, Folio 73, Page 52

Can anyone possible find them perhaps in 1911 and 1891 Census for me as cannot find.

Many thanks in advance,  Sue

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Re: George Smith b1869 Spalding Lincs
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 08 August 18 19:57 BST (UK) »
Try looking for the kids.?
Can the kids be tracked in indexes from her Maiden name?
When/where did Elizabeth marry George?

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Re: George Smith b1869 Spalding Lincs
« Reply #2 on: Monday 17 September 18 16:33 BST (UK) »
I think this may be Caroline's birth registration:-

SMITH, CAROLINE       TOBIN     
GRO Reference: 1900  D Quarter in WEST HAM  Volume 04A  Page 281

The family are living in the West Ham registration district in 1901.

Hhmm, maybe that isn't the right one.  Can't find any Smith/Tobin births that fit the children listed in the 1901.
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: George Smith b1869 Spalding Lincs
« Reply #3 on: Monday 17 September 18 17:20 BST (UK) »
Hmm, interesting.........

No 59 High Street, East Ham, West Ham in the 1911 census.

If someone knows how to find the enumerators schedule this can be checked to see if No 59 was occupied or not.
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: George Smith b1869 Spalding Lincs
« Reply #4 on: Monday 17 September 18 19:31 BST (UK) »
This on 1891 looks interesting - looking for Emma from 1901

In Ash, Kent

William Baker    53 - b Ebony, Kent
Elizabeth Baker    53 - b Tenterden
Theo Baker    14 - b Ebony, Kent
John Baker    12 - b Ebony, Kent
Emma Smith    3 - granddaughter b Barking

RG12; 644; 111; 1

William & Elizabeth have a daughter Elizabeth b c1865, Ebony

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Re: George Smith b1869 Spalding Lincs
« Reply #5 on: Monday 17 September 18 21:14 BST (UK) »
Hi,  been looking for 1911 cannot find.

One thing we have found out through Hubbys DNA there is a strong Romany Gypsy connection somewhere,  but we still have not found further connections,  but I remember Hubbys mum saying that his smith Granddad was a strong man and could lift heavy sacks of coal which is funny as this George is a coal porter.

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Re: George Smith b1869 Spalding Lincs
« Reply #6 on: Monday 17 September 18 22:48 BST (UK) »
There's just a chance that the children could have been registered in Romford and West Ham districts as Barber.
With mother's maiden name Baker (see Mabel's post)
Emma Elizabeth, March 1888, Romford
Frederick William, March 1890, Romford
Adeline, Sep 1892, West Ham
George Thomas, June 1895, West Ham
Frances Ada, Dec 1897, West Ham
Caroline Barbara, March 1901, West Ham

Might be them in 1891, no George Smith, was Emma then enumerated in two different places? Or it could all be wrong!
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QGVN-Q3Z

Possible Barber-Baker marriage in Gravesend in 1887. Don't know if it might be on CityArk (won't work for me at the moment)

1911 free index, Barber. 
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Re: George Smith b1869 Spalding Lincs
« Reply #7 on: Monday 17 September 18 22:56 BST (UK) »
Double baptism at St Margaret's Barking, 23 Feb 1890
Frederick William + Emma Elizabeth Barber
parents Frederick + Elizabeth
5 Wakering Terrace
father a Labourer
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DYKZ-41G?i=616&cc=1465709&cat=399365

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Re: George Smith b1869 Spalding Lincs
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 18 September 18 05:10 BST (UK) »
Sorry are we saying that Bakers could have changed name to smith?