Ebenezer Pugh and Richard W. Pugh,Laurel Cottage and Rose Cottage, Hay 1939

[Llanfihangel]

Hi,
I was surprised to find Richard W. Pugh and his wife Elizabeth living in Rose Cottage, Hay next door to an ancestor Ebenezer Pugh and Alice J Pugh in Laurel Cottage, Hay. This is recorded in the 1939 register. Richard W. Pugh was born 24 june 1879, Elizabeth Pugh on 11 September 1882. Ebenezer Pugh born 17 August 1873 and Alice J Pugh 5 July 1877. Ebenezer married Alice J Jones in 1915.
The 1911 Census shows Ebenezer living with his sister Mary, mother Elizabeth. and niece Elizabeth Vaughan age 3 in Vine Cottage Bronllys.
I have good records for Ebenezer Pugh, from birth in Llanvilo, but I can't trace Richard W. Pugh or his wife Alice J Pugh....
I have searched Findmypast, FamilySearch, Freereg, and FreeBMD without success. There are plenty of Richard Pugh's but no Richard Pughs born 1879 and no Richard W Pughs at all.
I would appreciate any help I can get on this as I would like to know if there is any family relationship between Ebenezer and Richard W Pugh 

Thanks for your attention!

LLanfi

[rosie99]

I have good records for Ebenezer Pugh, from birth in Llanvilo, but I can't trace Richard W. Pugh or his wife Alice J Pugh....

I think you mean Elizabeth 

[Llanfihangel]

Hello Rosie99

Thanks for spotting my error... Of course it should read

"but I can't trace Richard W. Pugh or his wife Elizabeth Pugh"

Llanfi

 

[rosie99]

How about Dicky Wood*n Pugh 

Sorry my internet keeps going down

1911 census
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7JZ-JCN

[rosie99]

Marriage Dec qtr 1909 
DAVIES    Elizabeth       
PUGH    Dickie Woodin       
Hay    11b   237

Age seems to be variable
Richard W Pugh
Death Age 77
March qtr 1957
Hay reg district
8a / 63

[rosie99]

This birth may fit 
WOODING, RICHARD       (no mothers maiden name)     
1879  Sept Quarter
CARDIFF RD  Volume 11A  Page 246
(See later post)
   

Marriage June qtr 1853 
Pugh    Henry       
Wooding    Ann       
Hay    11b   241

1881 - RG11/5469 f48 p13
Henry Pugh age 52 bn Llanbedr, Radnorshire
Ann 47 bn Radnorshire
Roger 11
George 7
John 5
RICHARD 1 born Cardiff

[suzard]

more and more complicated
Richard Wooding birth reg (as Rosie posted) gives no mother's maiden name -indicating he was illegit
but there is this baptism
14 Aug 1879 Roath cardiff Glamorgan
Richard Wooding son of William and Mary Ann
address 119 Broadway
father's occ Carpenter

I can find neither of these Richards in 1881 -or after

There is this -may be a red herring
1881Glasbury Brecon
Henry Pugh head M 52 Tailor Radnorshire
Anne wife 47 Glasbury
Roger son 11 Glasbury
George son 7 Glasbury
John son 5 Brecon
RICHARD son 1 Cardiff

but 1891
Brook Cottage Glasbury
Henry Pugh head m 62 tailor
Anne wife 57
RICHARD PUGH nephew 11 Cardiff
William Pugh Grandson 11
and next door
William Pugh 31 stone mason Glasbury
Elizabeth wife 28 Boughrood
William son 2 Gasbury

in 1861 Henry Pugh and wife Anne have a daughter Mary A age 4 b Broughrood Brecon and daughter Elizabeth age 1

could Mary Ann be Richard's mother and with Mr Wooding at his baptism?? even tough Richard was Henry and Anne's son in 1881 and nephew in 1891??

very long shot !!!

Suz

Suz

[rosie99]

I posted this without reading Suzards post first

PUGH, ROGER       mmn WOODING     
1870  June Quarter in HAY  Volume 11B  Page 150
   
PUGH, GEORGE       WOODING     
GRO Reference: 1873  J Quarter in HAY  Volume 11B  Page 152   

PUGH, JOHN       WOODING     
GRO Reference: 1875  S Quarter in HAY  Volume 11B  Page 135   

I can't see a Pugh/Wooding birth for Richard, I wonder if this is him and he has been 'adopted'
WOODING, RICHARD       (no mothers maiden name)     
1879  Sept Quarter
CARDIFF RD  Volume 11A  Page 246   

 

[suzard]

That could make Richard a nephew from the wooding side
Wonder if the cardiff baptism William and mary A as parents - wonder if William was the father but had a different name ?

Suz