Author Topic: Where was Douglas Land, Baillieston (Scotland) exactly?  (Read 2474 times)

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Where was Douglas Land, Baillieston (Scotland) exactly?
« on: Thursday 09 August 18 11:09 BST (UK) »
Have this noted on old birth certificates, and presume it was a stately home or along those lines?

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Re: Where was Douglas Land, Baillieston (Scotland) exactly?
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 09 August 18 13:35 BST (UK) »
I don't know the area and can't help with the precise location, but a "land" was a tenement building, as in Gladstone's Land in Edinburgh.

See the definition here: http://www.dsl.ac.uk/entry/snd/tenement
GRAY - Inveresk; Lanarkshire
LINDSAY - Lanarkshire
PURDIE - Lanarkshire; W. Lothian
POZZI - Elgin; Lancashire
MACKENZIE, MORISON - Isle of Lewis
ARCHIBALD, HAY, HUNTER, SNADDON - Clackmannanshire
COXON, HALL, JACKSON, SHOTTON - Northumberland

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Re: Where was Douglas Land, Baillieston (Scotland) exactly?
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 09 August 18 13:44 BST (UK) »
Welcome to rootschat RW Lynch.

What date were the certificates? Do you have the family at that address in any census?

I have some families whose address is "Someone's Land" but they are not living in tenement buildings. (nor are they stately homes) I will try to dig out some details.  :)

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Re: Where was Douglas Land, Baillieston (Scotland) exactly?
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 09 August 18 14:11 BST (UK) »
Hi,

The certificates were birth certificates of an illegitimate child born 1886.

I guessed stately home first because the mother was Domestic Servant.

Thanks for help so far.


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Re: Where was Douglas Land, Baillieston (Scotland) exactly?
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 09 August 18 14:34 BST (UK) »
I have found Douglas's Land on this document:
http://109.233.116.107/pdf/1881%20Street%20Index/1881%20Old%20Monkland.pdf

I'm afraid I don't know what it refers to but Douglas's Land is registration district 652-1, No 7
6.

If you go through the list there are other places which have the same district and number. I am wondering if locating an address with the same number on a map will help you find Douglas's Land.

Glancing through there are lots of "Someone Lands" - and it looks that Isabel might be right in saying this address may have been a tenement.

You say you have birth certificates. Is there more than one child born at Douglas' Lands? Was the mother at Douglas' Lands in the 1881 and 1891 censuses?

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Re: Where was Douglas Land, Baillieston (Scotland) exactly?
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 09 August 18 14:39 BST (UK) »
I found that document and didn't even think to cross reference that district number etc... with other ones the same.

I should stop looking at my family tree. My eyes are tired, but can barely keep them away from the screen as I dig further.

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Re: Where was Douglas Land, Baillieston (Scotland) exactly?
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 09 August 18 15:08 BST (UK) »
http://digital.nls.uk/directories/browse/archive/85272843?&mode=transcription places a Douglas Land at St Andrew's Entry, Saltmarket, Glasgow. So presumably somewhere near the southern end of Saltgate near St Andrew's Church.

Added - I don't think that can be the one, it's not in the location you mention in your first posting.
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Re: Where was Douglas Land, Baillieston (Scotland) exactly?
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 09 August 18 16:33 BST (UK) »
In old Scottish town streets the original plots had a certain length of frontage for the house & long narrow yards the same width running back to a dyke/fence, the "Lang Riggs!"  To develop this a pend was often knocked through the building & the house raised & built-up back from the frontage by the owner who modestly called this land after himself!  ;D

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Re: Where was Douglas Land, Baillieston (Scotland) exactly?
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 09 August 18 17:54 BST (UK) »
Bailleston was in old monkland parish so that might help if you looking for old maps and photos and other info
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