Mary McKay of West Hartlepool

[dickiemint]

Apologies if I am on the wrong Forum etc - newbie
I have a copy of a Birth Certificate of Mary Ellen (McKay?), b 28 Apr 1886. She was born in Throston Workhouse to Mary McKay (of West Hartlepool) - though the Fathers information is missing.
Mary Ellen (sometimes Helen!) married William Henderson, b 18 Jun 1879 in Sunderland. The Marriage Certificate shows her Father as William McKay (though spelt MacKay!).
Trying to obtain info on Mary McKay, when she married, maiden name etc
Any assistance would be greatly appreciated....

[rosie99]

Welcome to rootschat

Do you have Mary Ellen on census prior to her marriage.

If she was the Mary Ellen whose birth you have showing her as illegitimate then it is extremely likely that she invented a father when she married.

Should her birth be 1866, you are showing it as 1886 and her marriage as 1879

[dickiemint]

Thanks for the welcome and reply.

I thought I had her on a Census prior to marriage but mistakenly had her mother, Catherine McEntee and father as William G McKay.

Then received the Birth Certificate to show her mother as Mary McKay with no Fathers details, which has thrown it all.

Interesting the illegitimate part you mention, I wouldn’t have thought of that. She does have him down as William MacKay (not McKay) and a Labourer on her Marriage Cert…

Birth is definitely 1886, I think I may have confused that bit - 1879 was the DOB of her husband William Henderson.

Marriage was 19 Aug 1903 in Stranton Hartlepool. Mistakes again perhaps, her age is 18 (not 17) and William Henderson shows as 22 (not 24)

[rosie99]

Who were the marriage witnesses

[rosie99]

I wonder if her mother Mary married Henry William Brown

Marriages Dec qtr 1888   
McKay    Mary
Brown  Henry William       
Hartlepool    10a   190
......

1891 census - Streatham Street, Stranton
RG12 /4065 f40 p26
Henry W   Brown   40   occ Dock Labourer   bn Northallerton
Mary   Brown 30   bn South Shields
Mary E   Brown   5 bn West Hartlepool   
Rachael E   Brown 2 bn West Hartlepool

Birth reg for Rachel
BROWN, RACHEL  ELIZABETH     mmn MCKAY     
GRO Reference: 1889  June Quarter in HARTLEPOOL  Volume 10A  Page 123   
 

[rosie99]

Family still in Streatham Street in 1901 - I would think that 'Nelly' is Mary Ellen

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSCN-5JQ

including
Donald Mckay   Brother-In-Law   28   West Hartlepool, Durham
Elizabeth Mckay   Sister-In-Law   22   West Hartlepool, Durham

and 1911
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWHF-L4Q

[rosie99]

1891 has a widowed Mary McKay age 55   
RG12/4066 f94 p16
Rutland Terrace, Stranton

Mary   McKay widow 55 Born Yorkshire
Ralph  Harrison   Son   33   
Mary   Harrison   Dtr   21   
Alice   Harrison   Dtr   18   
Donald McKay   Son   17   
Rachael McKay   Dtr   12   

[rosie99]

1881 has Mary McKay (age 45) married to Robert McKay with a mixture of Harrison & McKay children
RG11 /4912 f51 p22

Split over two entries
Robert   McKay age   61   
Mary   McKay Wife age 45   
followed by
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q271-M9S8

ADDED
Don't know if I am now confused 
Ralph & Tamar Harrison's births both have mmn Collinson

Marriage Sep qtr 1877   
Harrison    Mary       
McKay    Robert       
Darlington    10a   21

[rosie99]

I still need to find Mary McKay born c1861 South Shields, mother of Mary Ellen in 1881 and earlier.

The Henry William Brown marriage certificate may help