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Italy - Boggiano/Ciliegia
« on: Thursday 09 August 18 23:30 BST (UK) »
Angelo Boggiano & Maria Ciliegia(?) both recorded as Italian. They had a son Pietro b 1830 and bap. 1830 at Lincolnís Inn Fields, London. Trying to establish when they came to London, where in Italy they came from and if they married in UK or Italy or elsewhere.

 Family moved to Liverpool  before 1835. Angelo b.c. 1800. Following his death in 1841, Maria remarried John Ginnochio (believe the two families were connected somehow). Mariaís father was Bartholmeo Ciliegia, a lawyer.

Not sure where to go from here, any suggestions/info welcome.

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Re: Italy - Boggiano/Ciliegia
« Reply #1 on: Friday 10 August 18 03:43 BST (UK) »
Could this be family?

The National Archives have a 1854 document for a Peter Boggiano: He is 41, a clothier and outfitter and living in Liverpool (14 years). He was born in Chiavari in Sardinia and arrived abt 23 years previously.

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Re: Italy - Boggiano/Ciliegia
« Reply #2 on: Friday 10 August 18 04:17 BST (UK) »
Apparently Sardinia (in this case) is actually the Kingdom of Sardinia (annexed 1815-1861) as Chiavari is in Genova. ( https://www.italythisway.com/places/articles/chiavari-history.php )

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Re: Italy - Boggiano/Ciliegia
« Reply #3 on: Friday 10 August 18 07:57 BST (UK) »
Thanks TreeSpirit
Not sure that this is my family but I will certainly look into the Sardinia connection. Angelo was a street musician, Pietro seems to have alternated between this and his step fatherís occupation of plaster figure maker.
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Re: Italy - Boggiano/Ciliegia
« Reply #4 on: Friday 10 August 18 09:25 BST (UK) »
Angelo Boggiano & Maria Ciliegia(?) both recorded as Italian. They had a son Pietro b 1830 and bap. 1830 at Lincolnís Inn Fields, London. Trying to establish when they came to London, where in Italy they came from and if they married in UK or Italy or elsewhere.

 Family moved to Liverpool  before 1835. Angelo b.c. 1800. Following his death in 1841, Maria remarried John Ginnochio (believe the two families were connected somehow). Mariaís father was Bartholmeo Ciliegia, a lawyer.

Not sure where to go from here, any suggestions/info welcome.

You may be in luck - there are about 6 pages on Little Italy , Liverpool and Boggiano family are mentioned - here is a list of the families who came to Liverpool from Italy - the MAJORITY from PISCINO - A village situated between Rome and Naples
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 The immigrant families were characteristically very close and supportive of each other, in particular the womenfolk, who demonstrated loyalty and encouragement to their hard working husbands desperately trying to earn enough for his family to survive. In spite of the many hardships they were determined to make a better life for themselves and their children.

 Some of the more prominent family names associated with Liverpool's Little Italy are;

 Albertini - Baccino - Bartolomeri - Blanki - Boggiano - Bonneretti - Bordessa - Capaldi - Cappella - Chiappe - Cogliolo - Colletta - D'Annunzio - Edro - Fasciole - Ferri - Franchetti - Frediani - Fusco - Gianelli - Granelli - Guzzoni - Iello - Imundi - Innelli - Mancini - Marengo - Minchelli - Miolla - Minghella - Moretta - Muscatelli - Pacelli - Podesta - Riccio - Riozzi - Rocca - Russiano - Sabatini - Santangelli - Sartorri - Silvano - Sinagoea - Tambourini - Temarco - Valerio - Valvona - Varcelli - Ventre - Vermiglio - Volante

 Present generations are deeply passionate about their Italian heritage and although the families are now scattered, when they do gather for celebrations they speak fondly of life in the old community. They are also able to give clear and accurate information about their ancestors with detailed descriptions of their occupations.

You will find this a fascinating read -
http://www.scottiepress.org/projects/litaly.htm

good luck

oakes,liverpool..neston..backford..poulton cum spittal(bebington)middlewich,cheshire......†† sacht,helgoland† .......merrick,herefordshire adams,shropshire...tipping..ellis..† jones,garston,liverpool..hartley.dunham massey..barker. salford

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oakes,liverpool..neston..backford..poulton cum spittal(bebington)middlewich,cheshire......†† sacht,helgoland† .......merrick,herefordshire adams,shropshire...tipping..ellis..† jones,garston,liverpool..hartley.dunham massey..barker. salford

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Re: Italy - Boggiano/Ciliegia
« Reply #6 on: Friday 10 August 18 09:38 BST (UK) »
here is one bonus for you - Angelo was born 1806
from Rootspoint records

Angelo Boggiano was a man born in 1806. During the 1841 UK Census he was 35 years old and lived in Lancashire.
Mary Boggiano was a woman born in 1811. During the 1841 UK Census she was 30 years old and lived in Lancashire.
residence 835 Liverpool
Peter is 12
another son - John Boggiano was a man born in 1835. During the 1841 UK Census he was 6 years old and lived in Lancashire. 835 Liverpool

added this is just outside Liverpool so I wonder if Angelo came to Liverpool because he had relatives already there ??
Burial: 14 Dec 1831 Sankey Chapel, Great Sankey, Lancashire, England
 Marie Boggiano -
     Age: 57 yrs
     Abode: Native of Italy
     Buried by: Jas.Simpson Curate
     Register: Burials 1813 - 1840, Page 64, Entry 511
     Source: LDS Film 1952267

oakes,liverpool..neston..backford..poulton cum spittal(bebington)middlewich,cheshire......†† sacht,helgoland† .......merrick,herefordshire adams,shropshire...tipping..ellis..† jones,garston,liverpool..hartley.dunham massey..barker. salford

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Re: Italy - Boggiano/Ciliegia
« Reply #7 on: Friday 10 August 18 10:31 BST (UK) »
Wow! Thanks for that garstonite, will look into all those links. Iím having real trouble locating Piscino though. Do you know the nearest town?
Many thanks again.