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James Kerr BOYLE, born Salford, 1872
« on: Friday 10 August 18 09:11 BST (UK) »
I am virtually certain that James Kerr Boyle, born in Salford, Lancashire in 1872 and orphaned when he was 7 years old, emigrated from the UK to New Zealand around 1890.  He appears in the 1881 UK census, but not in 1891, when he would have been 19.

Ancestry shows me lots of entries for a James Kerr Boyle starting in the late 19th century.  It seems he married, and that he might have been in trouble with the police :).  But he seems to disappear after about 1910. 

To save me having to expand my Ancestry subscription to a global one just for this one fellow, I wonder if anyone can provide any more details about him?

Thanks!
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Re: James Kerr BOYLE, born Salford, 1872
« Reply #1 on: Friday 10 August 18 12:04 BST (UK) »
Do you know about the Family Search NZ passenger lists?

https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/1609792
...out of, through, and back from New Zealand to the ends of the Earth

FRYER - MITCHELL - DUKE - WHYTE - McDONALD - TAYLOR - CARPENTER - HARRIS - WILLIAMS - CUNNINGHAME - LUCAS - WHITE - BOTHAM - HOLDAWAY - EYLES - OLSEN - CHASE - TRAILL - BAGGS - HASKINS - EDWARDS - CHING - SHIELDS - POLLARD - HOGAN - SMITH - STANLEY - HALL - ROBERTS - LARKHAM

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Re: James Kerr BOYLE, born Salford, 1872
« Reply #2 on: Friday 10 August 18 12:21 BST (UK) »
It looks like he went to Australia. There's a report in the newspaper dated 7 April 1914 that James Kerr Boyle , of no fixed abode and an inmate of the Kyneton Hospital , was among those listed as having tuberculosis and notified to the Kyneton Council :
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/129617653?searchTerm=%22james%20kerr%20boyle%22           
Pullinger Hillier Moxham Butterfield Button Browne Wallis Floyd Blyvers Cordery Cuttress Greve Fagg Belsey Lancaster Markwick

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Re: James Kerr BOYLE, born Salford, 1872
« Reply #3 on: Friday 10 August 18 12:26 BST (UK) »
Marriage in New Zealand 1895
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q24K-TPS7
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Baptism in New Zealand for son
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q24K-17R5
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Re: James Kerr BOYLE, born Salford, 1872
« Reply #4 on: Friday 10 August 18 12:28 BST (UK) »
Use this site...search....William Massey BOYLE..
https://archway.archives.govt.nz/

finds WW1 enlistment #76404...image 18 names father James Kerr BOYLE, born England (dec)
(at June 1917)

Kyneton Guardian 7 Apr 1914 p2   (newspaper Victoria, Australia)
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/129617653?
.James Kerr BOYLE age 40 years TB patient at Kyneton Hospital...

What names do you have for parents of James Kerr BOYLE?

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Re: James Kerr BOYLE, born Salford, 1872
« Reply #5 on: Friday 10 August 18 13:14 BST (UK) »
For your ref Wivebhoe.

BOYLE, JAMES  KERR, Mothers mn BROOME ***
GRO Reference: 1872  M Quarter in SALFORD  Volume 08D  Page 31

Siblings;

BOYLE, EDITH  MARY, Mothers mn BROOME**
GRO Reference: 1870  S Quarter in SALFORD  Volume 08D  Page 33
BOYLE, FLORENCE, Mothers mn BROOME***
GRO Reference: 1867  D Quarter in CHORLTON  Volume 08C  Page 610

1881 Census
Christopher Ketteridge, 29
Betsy Ketteridge, 29
Martha Jane Ketteridge, 2
Mary Simley, 14
Florence Boyle, 13 Lodger
James Boyle, 8 Lodger
Richard Smith, 32
Emma Boyle, 46
Isabella Boyle, 39


1871 in Salford, Lancs;
 William M Boyle, 35
Sarah Boyle. 28
Florence Boyle, 3
Sydney Boyle, 2
Edith M Boyle, 9 Months
Mary Perry, 15

Marriage in Durham 1866;
William M Boyle
Sarah Broome

William Massey Boyle died 1879 age 44, Sarah Boyle 1879 also age 36.

I wonder if they both had TB also?
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Cummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND)

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Re: James Kerr BOYLE, born Salford, 1872
« Reply #6 on: Friday 10 August 18 14:40 BST (UK) »
Well, thank you all for a wealth of information.

It seems James Kerr emigrated in 1893 ... so I'll have to have another look through the 1891 census.  He married and had a baby - William Massey Boyle - pretty quickly, by 1895.

This branch of the Boyles had quite a tragic story.  I first got interested in James Kerr Boyle, born 1803 (the grandfather of the James Kerr who emigrated.  The older James Kerr was a social activist in Manchester and a poet.  He and his wife died within 16 months of each other in 1843-5, leaving 4 young orphans, including William Massey Boyle.  This William Massey and his wife also died within 10 months of each other in 1879, also leaving 4 young orphans, one of which was the younger James Kerr.  One thing that puzzles me is that in the 1881 census, James Kerr and his older sister were living with Boyle aunts (Emma and Isabella); a brother, Sydney was living with his maternal grandfather, but the 4th child, Edith Mary, was in an orphanage.  Why?

The older William Massey died (if my memory is correct) from alcohol-related issues; his wife may have had TB, I can't recall.

At least the younger William Massey enjoyed a longer life - I see probate was proved in Auckland in 1979, so he died aged 83 or 84.

Thanks again
Tim
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Re: James Kerr BOYLE, born Salford, 1872
« Reply #7 on: Friday 10 August 18 14:49 BST (UK) »
Hi Tim, yes I followed up the children and wondered why Edith was not with Family also.
It certainly was a interesting Family to look at and quite a story you have untangled there.
Funnily I was born/grew up in New Zealand :)
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Re: James Kerr BOYLE, born Salford, 1872
« Reply #8 on: Friday 10 August 18 15:03 BST (UK) »
William Massey Boyle and Florence had 2 more children;
Gilbert 1898, died 1988 (birth 17 February 1898)
Arthur 1899, died 1989 (birth 17 June 1899)

So they lived a long life also :)

Likely Marriages;
1921/5137 Alice   Homer/ Arthur Boyle
1926/1437 Madge Milne/ Gilbert   Boyle
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