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Hudson, Shepshed and Leicester
« on: Friday 10 August 18 14:15 BST (UK) »
Thomas Hudson was allegedly the father of my ancestor Mary Ann Hudson, who I thought may have come from the Hudson family mentioned in this thread:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=798015.0

It seems that Mary was not from this family directly, but there are way too many points of confusion now for me to get my head around!

Mary Ann Hudson was allegedly full age when she married on 1st May 1841; she lived on Charles St, father Thomas, possibly a FWK (certificate not clear on this). The 1851 census has her as M Kelner, pob Shepshed, age 29. She died in 1858, allegedly age 36.

I have never found a matching baptism for her and had started to believe that Thomas was made up. HOWEVER some more facts have come to light:

Thomas Hudson b 1798, Shepshed, son of John and Mary. However he seemed to marry Matilda Caudwell in 1821 in Shepshed. Their first child was Mary Elizabeth who seems to have died in 1842. Rule this family out, despite the Shepshed link.

Another couple, Thomas and Elizabeth Hudson, baptised children in Loughborough (including John, 1788) and St Margarets (including Thomas, 1799). John was a sawyer and his will (1831) names his parents (still alive) and mentions that he is building property on Charles St, (where my Mary Ann lived).

Another Thomas Hudson was buried at St Mary de Castro in 1849 from Charles St. The family seems to be in Halford Square in 1841 - Thomas and his wife Mary both age 45, Emma (bapt 1825) and Thomas (bapt 1827). Both baptismal records give Thos Snrs occ as sawyer, and address as Charles St (though the 1841 census has him as an ag lab, albeit in the middle of Leicester!) Thomas' widow and his son are in Charles St in 1851 and the son is also a sawyer. I think this Thomas married Mary Westbury in 1823 at St Margarets, and I also think this Thomas was John's brother.

To throw another cat in amongst these pigeons, another Thomas Hudson from Loughborough was buried in Shepshed in 1830, age 65. Probably not relevant but unfortunately it's another confusion!

So. Charles St links. Plenty of Thomas Hudsons. Shepshed links. Can anyone see any way to tie these together to help identify the father of Mary Ann, who, to summarise, was allegedly born in Shepshed to a father called Thomas and lived in Charles St?


Bradbury (Sedgeley, Bilston, Warrington)
Cooper (Sedgeley, Bilston)
Kilner/Kilmer (Leic, Notts)
Greenfield (Liverpool)
Holyland (Leic)
Pryce/Price (Welshpool, Liverpool)
Rawson (Leicester)
Upton (Desford, Leics)
Partrick (Vera and George, Leicester)
Marshall (Cheshire/Leicester)

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Re: Hudson, Shepshed and Leicester
« Reply #1 on: Friday 10 August 18 15:42 BST (UK) »
Hi possible bap from igi


Mary Ann Hudson 21/7/1822 d/o Thomas & Elizabeth whitwick  prob the couple you found. Whitwick not far from Shepshed.


No others in Shepshed gaps 1819 - 1822.


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Re: Hudson, Shepshed and Leicester
« Reply #2 on: Friday 10 August 18 15:48 BST (UK) »
Sorry not Elizabeth but Isabella. So not same couple.


Can't see marriage for Mary what was husband's name please.


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Re: Hudson, Shepshed and Leicester
« Reply #3 on: Friday 10 August 18 16:10 BST (UK) »
Do you mean the marriage for Mary Ann?

Mary Ann Hudson m Thomas Kilner at St Margarets on 1 May 1841. Witnesses John Langton and Mary Mades (? on that last surname. The registrar's writing is awful!)
Bradbury (Sedgeley, Bilston, Warrington)
Cooper (Sedgeley, Bilston)
Kilner/Kilmer (Leic, Notts)
Greenfield (Liverpool)
Holyland (Leic)
Pryce/Price (Welshpool, Liverpool)
Rawson (Leicester)
Upton (Desford, Leics)
Partrick (Vera and George, Leicester)
Marshall (Cheshire/Leicester)

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Re: Hudson, Shepshed and Leicester
« Reply #4 on: Friday 10 August 18 16:13 BST (UK) »
Thanks. So leicester marriage- I don't have access to those.


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Re: Hudson, Shepshed and Leicester
« Reply #5 on: Friday 10 August 18 16:14 BST (UK) »
Only other bap found


Mary Hudson 23/5/1819 Shepshed  baseborn day of Hannah Hudson


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Re: Hudson, Shepshed and Leicester
« Reply #6 on: Friday 10 August 18 16:21 BST (UK) »
I've looked right through the Shepshed PRs (available on FindMyPast) and can't find one that I can confirm as my Mary Ann. I've certainly considered that she may have been Hannah's daughter but I can't think of any way of testing that theory further.
Bradbury (Sedgeley, Bilston, Warrington)
Cooper (Sedgeley, Bilston)
Kilner/Kilmer (Leic, Notts)
Greenfield (Liverpool)
Holyland (Leic)
Pryce/Price (Welshpool, Liverpool)
Rawson (Leicester)
Upton (Desford, Leics)
Partrick (Vera and George, Leicester)
Marshall (Cheshire/Leicester)

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Re: Hudson, Shepshed and Leicester
« Reply #7 on: Friday 10 August 18 16:24 BST (UK) »
I suspect the Whitwick  [size=78%] one might be good but could not find d marriage for Thomas & Isabella in the library - Lough not got many Whitwick records,[/size]



Now home will see if can find anything. Marriage might give occupation.


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Re: Hudson, Shepshed and Leicester
« Reply #8 on: Friday 10 August 18 16:35 BST (UK) »
There's a burial in Whitwick for Mary Hudson, age 4 years, in 1825 so it looks as though that mght be a dead end too.
Bradbury (Sedgeley, Bilston, Warrington)
Cooper (Sedgeley, Bilston)
Kilner/Kilmer (Leic, Notts)
Greenfield (Liverpool)
Holyland (Leic)
Pryce/Price (Welshpool, Liverpool)
Rawson (Leicester)
Upton (Desford, Leics)
Partrick (Vera and George, Leicester)
Marshall (Cheshire/Leicester)