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Re: Who was Maria Saville/Savage's dad?
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 11 August 18 21:48 BST (UK) »
Martha Savage of Farnley, aged 7mo, was buried at Farnley on 6 Jan 1836, according to a transcription:

http://www.calverley.info/farn_bur_2.htm
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Who was Maria Saville/Savage's dad?
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 12 August 18 13:22 BST (UK) »
Thank you all. This is all new to me. It seems Betty was a bit of a sort. From the newspaper report, it says she's had 7 bastard children. I have George Fowler (who was James Savage's according to the baptism), then Thomas as James's too. Then John but I can find no baptism and no record of him between 1861 and his death. I then now have the twins Martha and Mary. Then Maria. That means there's 6 children and 5 (4 if George then becomes legitimised from his parents' marriage and 3 if John was james's) and I've spent most of the morning trying to find any more children of Betty's with no success.

Thank you all again.

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Re: Who was Maria Saville/Savage's dad?
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 12 August 18 18:45 BST (UK) »

Hi,

Possible seventh child?

Birth
William SAVILLE    Sep Q 1844    Leeds    23  478
mmn:  FOWLER


Death
William SAVILLE    Dec Q 1844    Leeds    23  315
Age:  0


Regards,
Daisy
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Re: Who was Maria Saville/Savage's dad?
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 12 August 18 19:19 BST (UK) »
Thank you for that Daisy. Yes, that could be another child. If so, I expect it would give a name of father and they were acting as a married couple. I have looked on Yorkshire Indexers and can't find a burial for him. I'll try find a baptism.

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Re: Who was Maria Saville/Savage's dad?
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 12 August 18 19:50 BST (UK) »
George was born before the marriage and would not have been made legitimate by the subsequent marriage of his parents at that time. The law in England & Wales didn't change to allow this until 1926.

https://www.parliament.uk/about/living-heritage/transformingsociety/private-lives/relationships/overview/legitimacyadoption/
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Who was Maria Saville/Savage's dad?
« Reply #14 on: Monday 20 August 18 11:49 BST (UK) »
This morning I got Maria and William's birth certs. Both were  born at Lane Side Farnley and their mother registered both. On Maria's she was simply Elizabeth Saville with no father listed. On William's she was ...formerly Fowler with father down as James Saville a cloth dresser.

I now need to try and find this James Saville in the same area.

Thanks everyone for help in finding what you have so far.

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Re: Who was Maria Saville/Savage's dad?
« Reply #15 on: Monday 20 August 18 12:03 BST (UK) »
A second newspaper report of the same hearing says Elizabeth is 40 years old

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Re: Who was Maria Saville/Savage's dad?
« Reply #16 on: Monday 20 August 18 14:37 BST (UK) »
Quote from: Mckha489 on Monday 20 August 18 12:03 BST (UK)
A second newspaper report of the same hearing says Elizabeth is 40 years old
Yes, that's the rightish age. Could you put it on here please as I've looked on FindMyPast using her name and nothing correct came up.

I've never been able to find a death/burial for Elizabeth either. She could be using any name rally though.

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Re: Who was Maria Saville/Savage's dad?
« Reply #17 on: Monday 20 August 18 19:57 BST (UK) »
The young man = of good character and of parish of F. Just out of apprenticeship

https://search.findmypast.co.uk/bna/viewarticle?id=bl%2f0000155%2f18460514%2f018


Age 40. Seven children all living

https://search.findmypast.co.uk/bna/viewarticle?id=bl%2f0000099%2f18460516%2f027
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