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Richard BARNBY (alias Michael DALTON): Born c1837 ?Leeds
« on: Saturday 11 August 18 17:35 BST (UK) »
Hello,

Hopefully someone can help me.

Richard BARNBY (alias Michael DALTON) was born c1837 probably in Leeds, where his father, Edward DALTON, who was a Cooper, lived.   He spent some of his early life imprisoned and appeared to live "freely" after 18/10/1859, that is , he did not re-offend under either name.   Sadly, I can find neither hair nor hide of him after that date. ??? ::)   

It seems he was recognised foremost as Richard BARNBY, although his convict records do mention Michael DALTON regularly.

Any information or suggestions would be more than welcome please.

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Re: Richard BARNBY (alias Michael DALTON): Born c1837 ?Leeds
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 11 August 18 18:07 BST (UK) »
This intrigued me

1871 Stockport

Catherine Barnby    34 - married, hawker b Manchester
Richard Barnby    8 - b Leeds
John Barnby    3

From GRO mmn is Riley

There's a marriage between a Richard Barnby & Catherine Riley in Stockport, 1862

By 1881 Catherine is a widow (and born Liverpool)

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Re: Richard BARNBY (alias Michael DALTON): Born c1837 ?Leeds
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 11 August 18 18:17 BST (UK) »
Hi to get some idea of birth could he be the Michael in this 1841 family?

Edward DAULTON 40 Occ Cooper
Mary 40
Edward 8
John 8
Eliza 10
MICHAEL 6
Margaret 15
Mary 12
Joseph 2
Francis 20
Residing Clay Street, Leeds
Census ref HO107/1343/ 7/25 / 12
You possibly already have this record though.
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Re: Richard BARNBY (alias Michael DALTON): Born c1837 ?Leeds
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 11 August 18 20:17 BST (UK) »
Good Evening,

Two very interesting posts which deserve, and will get, much follow-up.   Thank you both

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Re: Richard BARNBY (alias Michael DALTON): Born c1837 ?Leeds
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 11 August 18 22:08 BST (UK) »
Hi again, to rid myself of notes made:-

1851 Census

Henry Dalton 50 Widower occ Cooper b Gibralter
John 17 b Leeds
Edward 17 b Leeds
William 8 b Leeds
Residing at 22, Giles Buildings, Leeds
Census ref HO107/2319/475/2

Would also point out however, a birth registration of a Michael Dalton Sept qtr  1837 Leeds v27 page 237.
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Re: Richard BARNBY (alias Michael DALTON): Born c1837 ?Leeds
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 12 August 18 01:09 BST (UK) »
This intrigued me

1871 Stockport

Catherine Barnby    34 - married, hawker b Manchester
Richard Barnby    8 - b Leeds
John Barnby    3

From GRO mmn is Riley

There's a marriage between a Richard Barnby & Catherine Riley in Stockport, 1862

By 1881 Catherine is a widow (and born Liverpool)

That marriage cert is on Ancestry Richard born 1827, occ. hatter, father Richard an ironmonger.

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Re: Richard BARNBY (alias Michael DALTON): Born c1837 ?Leeds
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 12 August 18 09:26 BST (UK) »
Hello,

I am going to concentrate on  the 1841 Census details , and Michael DALTON's 1837 birth registration, which seem to offer the greatest potential.

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Re: Richard BARNBY (alias Michael DALTON): Born c1837 ?Leeds
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 12 August 18 16:18 BST (UK) »
Hi again, in case it leads anywhere, a possible other brother Cain Dalton who married Elizabeth Bleasby 7th September 1846 St Peter Leeds Occ Flax Dresser Father Edward Dalton occ Cooper Brides Father Richard Bleasby occ Horse Dealer

And the twins John & Edward baptism 7th February 1834 Roman Catholic St Patricks York Road Leeds
Father John? Mother Mary Honan?

Cain/Elizabeth 1851 HO107/2318/519/49 1861 RG09/3369/13/20 1871 RG10/4278/49/6
A son on 1871 is John Edward Dalton 13 birth registered as John Dalton March qtr 1858 Hunslet 9b 263 mmn Bleasby
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